OASIS FORUM Post by the Golden Rule. GoldTent Oasis is not responsible for content or accuracy of posts. DYODD.

Buygold

Posted by ipso facto @ 21:45 on September 25, 2014  

The cretin algo machine break down? :mrgreen:

This can’t be right, can it??

Posted by Buygold @ 21:27 on September 25, 2014  
www.kitco.com

The World Spot Price – Asia/Europe/NY markets

light
MARKET IS OPEN
(Will close in 19 hrs. 50 mins.)
Metals Date Time (EST) Bid Ask Change from NY Close
Gold Charts  GOLD 09/25/2014 21:25 1225.60 1226.70

+3.70

+0.30%

Silver Charts  SILVER 09/25/2014 21:25 17.53 17.63

+0.03

+0.17%

Platinum Charts

Make that 105 out of 109

Posted by Buygold @ 21:11 on September 25, 2014  

“Speaking of heads the shorts win, tails the longs lose the perpetual nightly silver access trade open selloff (now 104 out of 108) makes no sense in light of the relentless shorting going on. Normally profitable shorts would at the least be taking light profit, resulting in a higher open, not lower. A lower access trade open would be more consistent with a winning long hand. Regardless there is NO way you can have something like this happening without blatant and illegal interference. One look at nearly any gold or silver chart the past 3 years shows there are algo computers running 24/7, controlling every minute. The 8:30 AM Comex open is practically as ironclad in its selling as the 6:00 PM access trade open.”
JMc

Ororeef @ 16:21 re UPSIDE DOWN HEAR! HERE!! :)

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 20:37 on September 25, 2014  

Equis 19:15 Silver

Posted by winedoc @ 20:30 on September 25, 2014  

From East to West, no regrets adding to silver at these levels!

Purulator “Tim”,  with a big smile,  reassured me on his companies security protocols for the recent car parts deliveries.  He’s German, and they like bullion, wonder if he’s shaken the odd box?

Seems like, even at these “bargains” …… There is plenty of inventory ?

Best Regards, waiting for the leaves to turn …….

Winedoc

oh, they must mean the secret law before Snowden told everyone about it

Posted by Floridagold @ 19:42 on September 25, 2014  

FBI Director Comey: Apple, Google phone encryption puts people beyond law’s reach, risks lives

2 minutes ago

By KEN DILANIAN

(AP:WASHINGTON) WASHINGTON (AP) — The FBI director on Thursday criticized the decision by Apple and Google to encrypt smartphones data so it can be inaccessible to law enforcement, even with a court order.

James Comey told reporters at FBI headquarters that U.S. officials are in talks with the two companies, which he accused of marketing products that would let people put themselves beyond the law’s reach.

Comey cited child-kidnapping and terrorism cases as two examples of situations where quick access by authorities to information on cellphones can save lives. Comey did not cite specific past cases that would have been more difficult for the FBI to investigate under the new policies, which only involve physical access to a suspect’s or victim’s phone when the owner is unable or unwilling to unlock it for authorities.

“What concerns me about this is companies marketing something expressly to allow people to hold themselves beyond the law,” Comey said. At another point, he said he feared a moment when “when people with tears in their eyes look at me and say, ‘What do you mean you can’t?'”

Comey said he was gathering more information about the issue and would have more to say about it later.

An FBI spokesman Thursday was not able to immediately amplify Comey’s remarks.

Both Apple and Google announced last week that their new operating systems will be encrypted, or rendered in code, by default. Law enforcement officials could still intercept conversations but might not be able to access call data, contacts, photos and email stored on the phone.

Even under the new policies, law enforcement could still access a person’s cellphone data that has been backed up to the companies’ online-storage services. They could also still retrieve real-time phone records and logs of text messages to see whom a suspect was calling or texting, and they could still obtain wiretaps to eavesdrop on all calls made with the phones.

Apple, in an explanation of its new policy, says on its website that on devices running its new operating system, “your personal data such as photos, messages (including attachments), email, contacts, call history, iTunes content, notes and reminders is placed under the protection of your passcode. Unlike our competitors, Apple cannot bypass your passcode and therefore cannot access this data. So it’s not technically feasible for us to respond to government warrants for the extraction of this data from devices in their possession.”

Comey’s criticism closely tracked complaints earlier this week by Ronald T. Hosko, a former FBI assistant criminal division director who wrote in The Washington Post that Google’s and Apple’s policies would have resulted in the death of a hostage in a recent North Carolina kidnapping.

The newspaper subsequently corrected Hosko’s claims after concluding that the new encryption systems would not have hindered the FBI’s rescue of the kidnap victim in Wake Forest, North Carolina. In that case, the FBI pulled telephone records associated with the number used to contact the victim’s family for the ransom demand, retrieved other connected toll records and eventually obtained a traditional wiretap to eavesdrop on the kidnappers’ conversations and locate and rescue the victim.

The only telephone physically seized in the North Carolina case belonged to a woman accused in the plot, after the hostage was already rescued. Authorities had tried to seize the cellphone from one of the alleged plotters, Kevin Melton, but he smashed it to pieces inside his prison cell on April 9, roughly four hours before the FBI rescued the victim in an Atlanta apartment.

Commenting on Comey’s remarks Thursday, Matt Blaze, a computer security researcher and professor at the University of Pennsylvania, said, “It’s disappointing that the FBI has chosen to focus on examples where encryption might potentially slow hypothetical investigations, while ignoring the fact that strong, reliable encryption is the only way we have to prevent a wide range of very real and very serious crimes.”

“We rely on smartphones to manage and protect more and more aspects of our business, personal and financial lives,” Blaze added.

A spokeswoman for Apple and spokesman for Google did not immediately return phone messages from The Associated Press. Google previously said in a statement that its Android phones have offered encryption for three years, but it was being turned on by default in the next release of its operating system.

hi maya….i appreciate you escaped

Posted by WANKA @ 19:37 on September 25, 2014  

from that dasterly roundhouse :mrgreen:

it would seem we had such redundency with the captcha. the 2 spam block programs are working just fine and we really didn’t have a need for the captcha since any registrant is directed to admin for approval there is no way someone not approved could post on the board. the spam bots and spam comment bots are a pain in the ass and we get 300-400 a day thru the filters with about 30 or so being sent for admin look which is easy in the list to see the bot of it all and mass delete. 1-2-3 easy. very glad your in. just let me and weston and the other admins know if you get blocked again for any reason but i don’t see it happening. we also have the tor block disabled so i don’t think you will have any more problems.
again good to see you and your trains and comments.
best of cheers wj

Winedoc, now that gold/silver ratio has hit 70, I could not resist adding to my stock of silver rounds. The price at our local coin/bullion dealer seemed to be a bargain price today.

Posted by Equisetum @ 19:15 on September 25, 2014  

WANKA @ 10:17

Posted by Maya @ 19:11 on September 25, 2014  

“this shall be known as ‘free maya day’ sept 25 and celibrated each year hence forthwith! hows them apples?”

DANG!  I guess that means I can’t charge admission fees…?  🙁

Seriously… thanks for letting me out of the RoundHouse!

 

Gold is just a tool around here after all; a tool for market evaluation and a tool for monetary value. It’s not an idol

Posted by Richard640 @ 17:44 on September 25, 2014  

[I neither agree or disagree with this guy-don’t shoot the messenger]

Notes From the Rabbit Hole

First off, I want to say that the plan explained by Steve Hochberg in the video associated with the previous post (free sign up required) meshes well with how I see gold currently. The 1000 +/- level is very doable, folks. Not a given, but quite doable. That would close out investors’ fear from 2008 by having made a completed cycle on the rebound in greed.

In the short-term, gold was probably ready to bounce even before the war stuff hit the news yesterday. Sentiment had become just deplorable, with gold bulls puking left and right. The geopolitical thing is a negative, as it always is but the Hulbert HGNSI is quite a positive, as the gold timer community (ha ha ha…) plummets well into net short territory.

So, geopolitical aside (and I always take that seriously as a negative for gold because it gets the worst of the gold “community” back to pumping) gold can see some decent rally activity off of sentiment and the improved Commitments of Traders structure. But I think more downside may follow over the next few months. Then? Cyclical bull.

Meanwhile, I am using gold as a macro tool; probably the best macro tool I have when comparing it to other assets that are positively correlated to economies. Gold is just a tool around here after all; a tool for market evaluation and a tool for monetary value. It’s not an idol. When the ones who obsess about gold with wildly glaring eyes are back on the pump, take caution.

Separately, also at MarketWatch we see that the word is getting out that these ‘golden’ and ‘death’ crosses that inexperienced TA’s often get hysterical about are indeed opposite to the hype. The supposedly bullish golden ones are more bearish than the death ones. Too funny, and sadly all too true.

What I like about market management is that there is no shortage of bullshit out there to decode and debunk, but casual observers tend to take it seriously.

http://tinyurl.com/mxok8pn

DOW Close today at 16945.80

Posted by commish @ 17:30 on September 25, 2014  

1+6+9+4+5+8+0 = 33  As far as numerology goes a very interesting number. I don’t know but something is going to happen.  But then again something is always about to happen.

Apple

Posted by Ororeef @ 17:28 on September 25, 2014  

may have a problem..reports coming in the NEW phone is too thin and too long   ..Its bending in MENS pockets.

They use to say you can’t be too Rich or too Thin

Apple may prove the exception..

OF 35 Fidelity Select SECTORS

Posted by Ororeef @ 17:22 on September 25, 2014  

that I track ONLY ONE was UP TODAY ,    only ONE was UP (FSAGX)  GOLD !

These are Sectors of the economy  ! Its an easy way to track SECTORS ,Fidelity Publishes everyday .

The worst was Computers ,Technology,biotech,software.

Japan & Gold did well today

Posted by Ororeef @ 16:44 on September 25, 2014  

In my curriencys list of 15 Countrys Japan did best today.

In my list of 25 Countrys Indexes  Japan did best today !

In a group of 30 different Sectors  Gold did best today with at least half in the Green today !

In my list of Chinese companies (13) only a Gold company was up (JINFF)

Ororeef @ 16:00

Posted by ipso facto @ 16:32 on September 25, 2014  

I agree we should be friends with Vietnam. No reason we should have been enemies in the first place. Communism seems to collapse of it’s own accord eventually anyways without us doing a thing. They’ve got problems with corruption and so forth … but who’s gonna say we don’t have our own particular problems.

Portugeezer 11:35 “upside down ! Your RIGHT

Posted by Ororeef @ 16:21 on September 25, 2014  

What isn’t upside down these days ?     Money used to be a store of wealth ,now its not,saving was a good idea ,now your punished  for it.Former enemys like Germany and Japan are now our best friends.Russia our former ally ,now an adversary ! People used to want to work,now they want a hand out ! Presidents inspired the People to be the best ,Now ….#@$%#

Former Capitalists are now Communists,former Communists are now Capitalists,women act like Men..Men act like women

The world is upside down …maybe we had a POLE reversal and didn’t notice it …North is South  … Nobody told me !  Who knew ? that explains it !

HUI

Posted by North @ 16:17 on September 25, 2014  

The one-year long triangle consolidation pattern has broken to the downside. If HUI does not get back inside the triangle, it is a long way down.

HUI 25:9:14

treefrog…calm of the storm

Posted by eeos @ 16:14 on September 25, 2014  

really might be the center of the hurricane we’re expierencing, but the storm most likely is building pressure since the 2007 event. That’s my way of over simplifing a much more complex reality.

IPSO 13:12 I suggested that a few months ago !

Posted by Ororeef @ 16:00 on September 25, 2014  

Vietnam had the mis fortune of defeating the US in a WAR .!  All of our former adversarys prospered after we defeated them.!

The Vietnamese are Great fighters ,very resourceful and natural enemys of China.China has coveted Vietnam for centurys ,as its the RICE BOWL of Asia .Its climate low land s and rivers are ideal for growing rice.They have always exported Rice. That very small country has fended off China for years ,just imagine if they were well armed and financed what they could do to China.

I knew a long time ago why the Americans were there ..The oil companies discovered oil off the Cast of vietnam years before Vietnam war…thats why WE were there  !  Now the Chinese want to exploit it claiming territorial rights for off their traditional previous borders.    Vietnam is a Natural Friend of the US  ….make use of it !   What friend is better than a former enemy ,,they really understand each other. I hired many Vietnamese when I was in business and I’m happy to say I benefitted from industrius hard working and very honest people .All my employees handeled my money every day and in 25 years I can tell you I never worried about honesty with them.They were a blessing to me during an era when help was hard to get .I became friends with some and they told me amazing stories about that WAR.  WE should be friends with Vietnam….

Hulbert on gold sentimentthe average short-term gold timer is now allocating nearly half his clients’ gold-oriented portfolios to going short.

Posted by Richard640 @ 15:36 on September 25, 2014  

More on Gold Sentiment
September 25, 2014 | Author Pater Tenebrarum

Mark Hulbert on the HGNSI

As an addendum to Dan Popescu’s article on the state of gold sentiment, we want to show an update of the indicators we follow. Coincidendally, Mark Hulbert has also just published an update on his HGNSI measure (Hulbert Gold Newsletter Sentiment Index). The Index measures the percentage newsletter writers recommend to allocate to gold-related investments on average – either on the long or the short side. As it turns out, the current level of the HGNSI stands at nearly minus 47%, which happens to be the second-highest bearish sentiment expression in 30 years (the highest was recorded in June 2013).

Mark Hulbert notes:

“[…] the average recommended gold market exposure level among a subset of short-term gold market timers tracked by the Hulbert Financial Digest (as measured by the Hulbert Gold Newsletter Sentiment Index, or HGNSI). This average currently stands at minus 46.9%, which means that the average short-term gold timer is now allocating nearly half his clients’ gold-oriented portfolios to going short.

That is an aggressively bearish posture, which is unlikely to be profitable according to contrarian analysis.
There’s been only one time in the past 30 years when the HGNSI got any lower than it is today. That came in June 2013, when the HGNSI fell to minus 56.7%. As you can see from the accompanying chart, gold soon — within a matter of a couple weeks — began a rally that, by late August, had tacked more than $200 on to the price of an ounce of gold.
Notice that gold’s 2013 summer rally didn’t begin immediately after the HGNSI dropped to the levels we’re seeing today. That’s hardly a criticism, of course, since no trading system can pick the market’s turning points with pinpoint accuracy. Nevertheless, according to the econometric tests to which I have subjected the 30 years’ worth of my sentiment data, the gold market performs appreciably better following low HGNSI readings rather than it does high ones. Contrarian analysis hasn’t always worked, needless to say, but it’s more successful than it is a failure.”

http://www.acting-man.com

Wrong-way Gartman just said on CNBS that KIng Dollar just got recrowned

Posted by Richard640 @ 15:25 on September 25, 2014  

He expects a long run-of a year or two-“like during Reagan” Just another buy signal for gold…

the calm before the storm?

Posted by treefrog @ 14:44 on September 25, 2014  

things are quiet.  too quiet.  i feel a premonition that this may be the calm before the storm.  perhaps the storm that blows everything up.  but then again, it may be the storm that blows everything down.
we can wait.  we can watch.

Hey eeos

Posted by Buygold @ 14:39 on September 25, 2014  

I bought two 90% silver bags and one monster box of silver eagles thinking 18.50 would hold in the last couple of weeks. The more I watch the more it becomes apparent that silver is the proverbial “canary in the coal mine”.

I guess they can do $16 short term. Either we’re really wrong about silver or the boyz are scared to death of a big move. I imagine we’ll find out soon enough, but at the moment silver is killing us.

I pose the paradigmatic question to which I have no answer–Ding Ding! Is that the bell dinging for a stock mkt top

Posted by Richard640 @ 14:15 on September 25, 2014  

and a gold mkt bottom TODAY??

As I have said many times, when the next bull run in gold starts, it will look ragged and tentative-just like gold looks today…

AS I asked yesterday=if gold fundamentals–those discussed on CNBC–are O-so-bearish-why isn’t gold a $1000 today–with the rise in the $, why has gold only grudgingly gone down….greater minds than mine want to know…

I bought 2000 jnug yesterday near the close at 13.09–and bailed out in the pre-mkt at 8:39 am when gold was down $10-at 13.01….dammit-! Gold looks hopeless–Wolanchuk said “hopeless” is a bottom…

HUI may be up a tad but….SPDR S&P Metals and Mining ETF (XME) -NYSEArca 37.26 -1.09(2.84%)

Posted by Richard640 @ 13:59 on September 25, 2014  
Older Posts »
Go to Top

Post by the Golden Rule. Oasis not responsible for content/accuracy of posts. DYODD.