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Silverngold @ 19:46

Posted by Moggy @ 23:40 on October 17, 2014  

“…The only thing I would insist on adding is the words “PRESENT and” just before the word “previous” in your post. ”

Not to be disagreeable, however, the present illegal pres didn’t steal the country’s gold because there was none left when he ascended the throne.  Nor would I describe him as “criminal” due to the fact that he is way beyond that…he is a terrorist and potential murderer because of his open border policies and because he willfully encouraged illegal third-world diseased illiterate people by the thousands to enter our country to the detriment and at the expense of the American public.  For these reasons, I respectfully disagree with you.

They say PM,s are risky investments-Too Volatile!

Posted by Auandag @ 22:19 on October 17, 2014  

The ten year bond swung 15% in one day last week. That would be like gold going down $285 in one day! I thought bonds were safe havens!!!

anecdotal evidence of recovery – or lack of it

Posted by treefrog @ 22:02 on October 17, 2014  

while having supper with an old freind, i mentioned that in my recent vacation trip (rambling from north florida to utah and return) i had seen a lot of vacant retail space.  once i was a mile or so from an interstate, half to three quarters of the stores were shuttered.  he had just returned from a trip to north dakota, and he said he had seen about the same thing.  further, he said that much of the retail space that is still occupied is downscaled – former grocery stores are now indoor flea markets or thrift shops etc.

economic recovery?  at ground level in mid america, not so much.

Moggy @ 16:59

Posted by silverngold @ 19:46 on October 17, 2014  

Hi Moggy, yes I agree almost totally. The only thing I would insist on adding is the words “PRESENT and” just before the word “previous” in your post. Thanks for responding.  Silverngold

pgr2.45 @ 18:27

Posted by ipso facto @ 19:32 on October 17, 2014  

Why do you think this company (BAM) is going to be superior to PM shares to hold in the future?

Maybe Nigeria just became a bit smaller?

Posted by ipso facto @ 19:28 on October 17, 2014  

After six months, Nigeria reaches a deal over abducted schoolgirls

Nigeria’s government has reached a deal with Islamic militant group Boko Haram for a cease-fire and the release of around 200 girls kidnapped six months ago from a school in the northeast town of Chibok, the defence chief said on Friday.

“I wish to inform this audience that a ceasefire agreement has been concluded,” Marshal Alex Badeh said in a statement after three days of talks with the militant group that has wreaked havoc in the northeast of Africa’s biggest oil producer.

A presidency source said the agreement stretched to the girls, who were abducted from a secondary school in Chibok near the Cameroon border in April, sparking a worldwide outcry.

The girls have remained in captivity ever since, although police and a parent of some of the missing students said last month one of the girls had been released.

Boko Haram, whose name roughly translates as ‘Western education is sinful’, has killed thousands of people in a five-year insurgency aimed at creating an Islamic caliphate in the vast scrubland of Nigeria’s impoverished northeast.

A senior Nigerian security source confirmed the existence of talks, but said it remained unclear whether Abuja was negotiating with self-proclaimed movement leader Abubakar Shekau, or another faction within the group.

“Commitment among parts of Boko Haram and the military does appear to be genuine. It is worth taking seriously,” the security source told Reuters.

http://i100.independent.co.uk/article/after-six-months-nigeria-reaches-a-deal-over-abducted-schoolgirls–x1dVtUTNIg

Lots of anger here but I think the punishment was delivered to the wrong persons

Posted by ipso facto @ 19:19 on October 17, 2014  

Four construction workers burned to death by Chinese villagers over land development

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/four-construction-workers-burned-to-death-by-chinese-villagers-over-land-development-9799820.html

Moggy @ 16:59

Posted by ipso facto @ 18:38 on October 17, 2014  

Good answer! :mrgreen:

Brookfield Asset (BAM) vs Franco-Nevada (FNV)

Posted by pgr2.45 @ 18:27 on October 17, 2014  

iFormulating a plan;

if PMs manage some sort of come back, I plan to be out of ’em all except phyz by PDAC 2015

FNV is one of my favourite golds, but it has to go too. Where to invest? I have my eye on BAM, especially if it drops a bit more after this kitty-cat bounce.

Over 3 years, BAM has mostly straight-lined 68% growth.

FNV has been roller-coastering 45+%

both yield about 1.4% dividend.

http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=BAM&p=W&b=5&g=0&id=p09341604112

Obama Hires an Ebola Czar

Posted by commish @ 18:05 on October 17, 2014  

dcfe49244d who isn’t a doctor.

You cant make this Stuff UP!

Posted by Auandag @ 17:58 on October 17, 2014  

To me, this is like the government claiming that the grass is now blue and the sky is now green and everyone had better comply with this belief or suffer serious consequences. 

 

http://www.tfmetalsreport.com/blog/6237/religious-liberty-under-assault-name-transgender-bathroom-access-houston

Silverngold @ 14:16

Posted by Moggy @ 16:59 on October 17, 2014  

You said:  “OK, here’s a question I don’t know the answer to: If I buy a government treasury bond or bill for, say, $100………….. and the government suddenly devalues its currency from $1.00  to, say, .50 cents,………… how much will my government treasury bond or bill be worth after the devaluation??

It would be as worthless as the currency…the only worth would derive from being paid in gold or silver…which you won’t be because the wealth of the country has been stolen by previous presidents and their fellow criminals.

Samb @ 15:43

Posted by silverngold @ 16:12 on October 17, 2014  

Thanks, there is some meat in your answer. Would the same apply to a T Bond?? Having never been interested in them, but seeing what appears to be a drive to push people out of the markets and into them or cash, I wanted to know if there could be another robbery about to take place in the form of a dollar reset. Much appreciated.     Silverngold

Silverngold

Posted by Samb @ 15:43 on October 17, 2014  

You buy a $1000 T Bill. Your wife stashes $1000 under the mattress. Dollar gets devalued by 50% then you both lost half of your old purchasing power.

silverngold — in addition

Posted by WANKA @ 15:24 on October 17, 2014  

the bond price would sell off big time and you would still have 100 at the maturity but if you sold it after the devaluation you would suffer a big haircut in price.  🙂

toon2egot gold?  wj

Silverngold

Posted by goldielocks @ 15:14 on October 17, 2014  

Ps This is no longer the 1930s and the dollar is not backed by gold so just debasing or increasing the currency can’t happen overnight unless we have some event. So they print to debase currently or raise interest rates to gain. Their digital currency will cause all sorts of destabilization with currency. That will probably cause a move to tangibles and possibly barter. DVDs were trades for apts in Russia during one of their currency upsets. I don’t think the people of any country trust the politicians with money or controlling currency. Your basing your assumptions it will happen in that way when we need to consider many routes they can take. In any event the event will be used to save the day to move to digital so best chance is finding out and heading off that event,  best chance is take the power to do so off the table. They made their bed we shouldn’t have to sleep in it.

Silverngold

Posted by goldielocks @ 15:04 on October 17, 2014  

That’s what affect it just might be, indirect. I can see one scenario when the dollar falling and in a effort to prop it up they raise the rates. But the dollar for now has been rising so really too busy at this point to figure out how they are going to pull off rising interest rates at the moment.

goldielocks @ 14:45

Posted by silverngold @ 14:54 on October 17, 2014  

Thanks, and I agree with your indirect effect on bonds, but still don’t know what the immediate DIRECT effect on them would be.

Anyway, we all know what the BEST answer is. A hint is that it was in Wanka’s post. ;o)

Silverngold

Silverngold 14:38

Posted by goldielocks @ 14:48 on October 17, 2014  

That’s why we can’t let them get away with it amongst other reasons. If a EMP hits even satellites will go and thus any security. They would wish then we did have guns.

WANKA @ 14:34 Yr right!!

Posted by silverngold @ 14:45 on October 17, 2014  

I was just trying to paint a picture easy to follow, and I agree completely with your statement….. but I’m still not getting any solid answers to my question. I guess we just have to wait and see!!

Come on guys and gals, if I can ask a stupid question, somebody should be able to give me a stupid answer….eh??? :o)

Silverngold 14:16

Posted by goldielocks @ 14:45 on October 17, 2014  

Bonds I think what will happen is when the time comes the bonds will be devalued from interest rates rising and in anticipation everything may begin to fall. It may start as a reaction to something. Bonds won’t be safe even if their value is pat ” if something should occur over night” because interest rates will destroy their value.

Richard 640 …..Goldielocks…..Thanks!!

Posted by silverngold @ 14:38 on October 17, 2014  

That’s about what I come up with too. LOL!!! There ain’t no place to hide!!

 

Goldielocks, as they did in (I think) New Jersey, the govt paid $1000 reward to anyone who turned in a neighbor who owned or possessed an “illegal” weapon. If “they” create a digital currency they will create a law similar to the above to turn in anyone using the barter system outside the digital currency. Again, there ain’t no place to hide!!   :o(

Silverngold

Florida 14.29

Posted by goldielocks @ 14:34 on October 17, 2014  

Yeah but they want to make everthing digital and expect a different result.

silverngold the currency is devalued by % not amount of denomination

Posted by WANKA @ 14:34 on October 17, 2014  

ie: it doesn’t go from $1 to .50cents it goes from $1 to $1 that now has the buying power of .50cents…..got gold? :mrgreen:

wj

I guess it is under used – WE THE PEOPLE pay the friggin bill for everything

Posted by Floridagold @ 14:29 on October 17, 2014  

Identity theft? President’s under-used credit card declined in a New York restaurant

9 minutes ago

By DEB RIECHMANN

(AP:WASHINGTON) WASHINGTON (AP) — The Secret Service is charged with watching the president’s back, but who’s watching his wallet?

When his credit card was declined last month while dining in New York, President Barack Obama wondered if he had become a victim of identity theft.

“It turned out, I guess I don’t use it enough,” Obama said Friday at the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.

“They thought there was some fraud going on,” he said, chatting while announcing a government plan to tighten security for debit cards that transfer federal benefits like Social Security to millions of Americans.

“I was trying to explain to the waitress ‘No, I really think that I’ve been paying my bills.'”

Fortunately first lady Michelle Obama was able to whip out a credit card they could use.

Identity theft is a growing problem and an estimated 100 million people have been affected by security breaches in the past year at retailers like Target and Home Depot.

“Even I’m affected by this,” he said.

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