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Posted by goldielocks @ 23:32 on November 25, 2014  

Good question about why they would burn and loot their own neighborhood or any that have nothing to do with it. It’s something in the gang or mob mentality. What I was glad to see this time was people coming out risking their own safety to protect some if these building and people going to these places and helping them clean the damaged places up.

re re Dollar Bulls Amass Record $48 Billion Stake in Rally:

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 23:01 on November 25, 2014  

Anybody that believes that the sudden straight up dollar rally since June, was a natural market forces at work, must believe in the tooth fairy. TPTB constantly do things that make people do the things TPTB wants.

For example, TPTB “made” people borrow and spend on real estate with low rates and tax breaks. Real estate bulls were really TPTB bulls. same with Dollar strength and dollar bulls. You can bet your ass TPTB did something to spark that sudden dot com dollar jump since June.
Can’t Be natural market forces:
http://finviz.com/futures_charts.ashx?t=CURRENCIES&p=w1

Auandag

Posted by newtogold @ 22:58 on November 25, 2014  

I agree with Ted Nugent.  Another point  to mention. Why would the blacks burn down the stores owned by other blacks? If you don’t take care of your own, why make a big stink about someone else of your race being killed? I believe statistics will show that blacks kill more blacks by far than white people or cops killing blacks. Blacks are prejudiced against whites and authority figures( I don’t like authority figures that much either but I certainly won’t taunt a cop with a gun ) . Why don’t white people goes insane and start looting when a black cop shoots a white kid?
As Ted Nugent said, all life is precious. Don’t  challenge a policeman with a gun unless you don’t value your own life. Without policemen there would be chaos.

This is what a Feminist Society is like ..

Posted by Ororeef @ 22:41 on November 25, 2014  

voted

It was the women’s vote

Posted by Ororeef @ 22:33 on November 25, 2014  

that elected this BUM ..and now their silence is deafening ..Its the first time I can recall women being silent.  and that saying somethin!!!

He is so bad it caused women to go silent …first time in History….

@Floridagold 18:44 re Dollar Bulls Amass Record $48 Billion Stake in Rally: Currencies

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 22:18 on November 25, 2014  

Re this one part:

“While the U.S. economy still isn’t growing as fast as it did before its 2007 plunge into the deepest contraction since the Great Depression, the outlook is more attractive when stacked against the increasing prospect of euro-area deflation, a Japanese recession and a China-led emerging-market slowdown. Bloomberg’s Dollar Spot Index has gained almost 10 percent since mid-year.”

Comment:
When I got to that part, I had to respond….If the Dollar keeps going up from here, for a year or more, we can safely bet the farm that the USA recovery has PEAKED, and recovery that started gradually after weak US high 2001 dollar peak, and more so after 2008 meltdown has ended.

You could look at all the other currency drops since June as a defensive agenda by them or self survival agenda, against the USA. If not?

Then you could assume the global powers dropped all the currencies against the dollar to help Europe Japan et al on purpose because they think the USA has had enough weak dollar stimulation, and can go into contraction for a while as the others recover with weak falling Euro Yen etc etc.

There is no way in hell that a stronger US Dollar is going to help the USA export or sell US made goods overseas. A strong dollar will only help foreign nations export, sell, their goods to the USA.

Bottom line. Strong Dollar. The USA will export wealth jobs and dollars, and at the same time, import cheap consumer products, import more poverty, and more immigrants.

I wonder who wrote that article?

About the Ferguson thing

Posted by redneckokie1 @ 22:08 on November 25, 2014  

is it too late to riot, burn and pillage about the OJ acquittal ? Can we plug some major intersections and close down some airports? Stop the food stamps and section 8?

There is no group of people more racist in this country than illiterate minorities . I’m really getting tired of supporting their lifestyle and drug habits.

anyone know a good anarchist party?

rno

Tip of the transmitter to Flag…yeah, one of these days

Posted by macroman3 @ 21:57 on November 25, 2014  

The Eyes have it…

Posted by Maya @ 21:46 on November 25, 2014  

eye

 

silverngold

Posted by Buygold @ 21:26 on November 25, 2014  

yeah, I don’t even know what that means, you’re losing me.

 

Islandgold

Posted by Buygold @ 21:05 on November 25, 2014  

I’ll tell you something else. I’ve been watching FOX news lately. I think Megan Kelly is a hybrid. Look at her eyes.

Just observin’.

Buygold @ 20:17……Guess it depends which rabbit hole we go down

Posted by silverngold @ 20:58 on November 25, 2014  

It has been prophesied thousands of years ago, and IMO we are living in the end times today. I don’t think we have to worry about billions being killed. It is going to happen and the clues as to how it will happen seem very clear, at least to me.

Revelation 9:13-16New International Version (NIV)

13 The sixth angel sounded his trumpet, and I heard a voice coming from the four horns of the golden altar that is before God. 14 It said to the sixth angel who had the trumpet, “Release the four angels who are bound at the great river Euphrates.” 15 And the four angels who had been kept ready for this very hour and day and month and year were released to kill a third of mankind. 16 The number of the mounted troops was twice ten thousand times ten thousand. I heard their number.

Silverngold

Gold over paper.

Posted by commish @ 20:42 on November 25, 2014  

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Islandgold, silverngold

Posted by Buygold @ 20:17 on November 25, 2014  

Islandgold – very little makes sense anymore which is why we need to think outside the box. I agree with most everything you’ve said. Funny how we (you and I) are hesitant to say what we’re thinking. Why should we be hesitant? Because of what people think?

silverngold – a lot of “what if’s” but a lot doesn’t add up. Thing is, if their goal is population control they are failing miserably, they need something that will kill billions of people. Maybe it’s coming, maybe nothing to think about.

I’m with ya though, chemtrails are real. Believe that 100%

Posted by Auandag @ 20:17 on November 25, 2014  
Ted Nugent

Musician/Band · 2,284,246 Likes

· 22 hrs ·

Here’s the lessons from Ferguson America- Don’t let your kids growup to be thugs who think they can steal, assault & attack cops as a way of life & badge of black (dis)honor. Don’t preach your racist bullshit “no justice no peace” as blabbered by Obama’s racist Czar Al Not So Sharpton & their black klansmen. When a cop tells you to get out of the middle of the street, obey him & don’t attack him as brainwashed by the gangsta assholes you hang with & look up to. It’s that simple unless you have no brains, no soul, no sense of decency whatsoever. And dont claim that “black lives matter” when you ignore the millions you abort & slaughter each & every day by other blacks. Those of us with a soul do indeed believe black lives matter, as all lives matter. So quit killin each other you fuckin idiots. Drive safely.

Wanka, Floridagold

Posted by Buygold @ 19:38 on November 25, 2014  

The Netdania ramp was fun for a little while. I remember when JPM used to send smoke signals about down moves in pm’s. Funny how they always seem to play out.

As for tonight, the never ending nightmare continues.

 GOLD 11/25/2014 19:31 1198.70 1199.70

-2.50

-0.21%

 SILVER 11/25/2014 19:31 16.56 16.66

-0.11

-0.63%

time’s a wastin’

Posted by treefrog @ 19:13 on November 25, 2014  

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ah, here comes the rest of the story

Posted by Floridagold @ 18:52 on November 25, 2014  

Illegal immigrants could receive Social Security, Medicare under Obama action

Under President Obama’s new program to protect millions of illegal immigrants from deportation, many of those affected will be eligible to receive Social Security, Medicare and a wide array of other federal benefits, a White House official said Tuesday.

In his speech on Thursday night, the president touted his plan as a means of bringing accountability to a broken immigration system, under which 11 million or more people are estimated to be living in this country illegally.

“We’re going to offer the following deal: If you’ve with been in America more than five years. If you have children who are American citizens or [legal] residents. If you register, pass a criminal background check and you’re willing to pay your fair share of taxes, you’ll be able to apply to stay in this country temporarily without fear of deportation,” he said. “You can come out of the shadows and get right with the law.”

For those who work, that includes payroll taxes, also known as FICA taxes, because they are collected under the Federal Insurance Contributions Act.

The tax payments are usually split between employer and employee and include 12.4 percent collected to pay for Social Security, as well as 2.9 percent to pay for Medicare.

Current federal law says that people who pay the taxes and are deemed “lawfully present in the United States” can collect benefits under those programs when they become eligible. They may also receive survivors and disability benefits.

“If they pay in, they can draw,” White House spokesman Shawn Turner said by e-mail.

Turner noted, however, that the estimated 5 million immigrants granted protection from deportation will not be eligible for other federal benefits such as student financial aid, food stamps and housing subsidies. Nor are they eligible to purchase health insurance through the federal health-care exchange under the Affordable Care Act.

Republicans on Tuesday said they were surprised that illegal immigrants covered by the president’s executive action would be in line to someday receive benefits under Social Security and Medicare, which are the cornerstones of government-provided economic security for elderly Americans.

“First with Obamacare we were told we should pass it and then read it to find out what was in it,” Republican National Committee spokeswoman Kirsten Kukowski wrote in an e-mail. “Now Obama overreached and acted unilaterally on immigration, which should have been vetted and authorized by Congress, and we’re finding out there’s more to the story than Obama and the Democrats originally told Americans.”

Illegal immigrants who register and meet the requirements set out by Obama would be allowed to remain in the United States without fear of deportation for three years at a time. Theoretically, his action could be overturned by future presidents, but withdrawing such arrangements would be difficult politically.

Social Security benefits are based on how much individuals earned during their working careers. This year, more than 59 million people are being paid about $863 billion through the program, with an average monthly check of $1,294 for retirees, $1,146 for disabled workers, and $1,244 for survivors.

It is unclear what effect adding millions of immigrants to the Social Security and Medicare systems would have on the two programs, said Robert Shapiro, who was an adviser to former president Bill Clinton and who now runs an economic consulting firm.

In the short run, he said, it could help the programs’ balance sheets because so many immigrants are still young and would not be drawing benefits.

“The great thing about immigrants, with respect to entitlements, is you get the young worker and you don’t get the young person’s parents,” Shapiro said.

But over the longer haul, he added, they are likely to draw more out of the system than they contribute — as is the case with nearly every Medicare recipient and with many Social Security recipients who worked low-paying jobs.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/illegal-immigrants-could-receive-social-security-medicare-under-obama-action/2014/11/25/571caefe-74d4-11e4-bd1b-03009bd3e984_story.html

 

what if

Posted by WANKA @ 18:46 on November 25, 2014  

tonight’s quote move up over 230 in gold was a signal to all the banksters to begin their short covering? what if? :mrgreen: wj

Dollar Bulls Amass Record $48 Billion Stake in Rally: Currencies

Posted by Floridagold @ 18:44 on November 25, 2014  

Among the hedge-fund crowd, no currency comes close to the dollar in terms of appeal.

Together with other large speculators, the lightly regulated pools of capital have pushed net bullish-dollar positions to a record $48 billion, data from the Commodity Futures Trading Commission in Washingtonshow. So convinced are they the greenback will extend its biggest rally since the global financial crisis that it’s now seen gaining against the euro, yen, pound and its five other major peers.

While the U.S. economy still isn’t growing as fast as it did before its 2007 plunge into the deepest contraction since the Great Depression, the outlook is more attractive when stacked against the increasing prospect of euro-area deflation, a Japanese recession and a China-led emerging-market slowdown. Bloomberg’s Dollar Spot Index has gained almost 10 percent since mid-year.

“The U.S. is still the cleanest shirt in the dirty laundry,” Jennifer Vail, the head of fixed income at Minneapolis-based U.S. Bank Wealth Management, which oversees $120 billion, said by phone on Nov. 20. “I don’t view it as a crowded trade, I view it as people piling into the dollar due to the potential for further economic growth.”

Relative Growth

The U.S. economy will expand 3 percent next year, versus 2.15 percent across the Group of 10, according to analysts surveyed by Bloomberg. The Federal Reserve is now weighing whether to raise its benchmarkinterest rate next year from the record-low zero to 0.25 percent range it’s been in since 2008.

Bloomberg’s index — which tracks the U.S. currency against 10 major exchange rates including the euro, yen and pound — rose to 1,099.49 as of 1:18 p.m. in New York, set for its highest close since March 2009 and a fifth straight monthly gain.

“The dollar is the best in an ugly parade,” Alan Ruskin, the global head of G-10 foreign exchange at Deutsche Bank AG, said yesterday by phone. “It’s hard to really make a story that’s more constructive than the dollar story in the G-10.”

Deutsche Bank predicts the dollar will strengthen to $1.15 per euro and 125 yen by the end of next year, from $1.2469 and 117.91 today. The U.S. currency reached a two-year high of $1.2358 against the euro and a seven-year high of 118.98 yen earlier this month.

Broad Gains

U.S. Bank Wealth Management’s Vail sees the greenback at $1.2350 per euro at the end of this year and $1.22 by the first quarter of 2015. Median estimates of at least 60 strategists surveyed by Bloomberg put the dollar at $1.23 per euro and 116 yen on March 31, and by the end of the next year the greenback is seen advancing against 11 of its 16 most-traded peers.

The $48 billion held by hedge funds and other large speculators represents 393,529 futures contracts in the week ended Nov. 18, the CFTC data show. They were negative on the dollar against eight major peers as recently as July.

The last time there was a net-long position in the dollar against all eight of its major peers was March 2009, when the Bloomberg Dollar Spot Index reached 1,144.15. It then started on an eight-month-long, 17 percent slump that saw it fall to 954.

Bank of America Corp., citing its own data tracking flows, said investors started selling the dollar against Japan’s currency last week. The U.S. bank said it would use any declines to buy more dollars.

Buying Dips

“We continue to be dollar-bullish but, in the short term – – because the rally took place too soon, too fast — we’re concerned about some contrarian moves,” Athanasios Vamvakidis, the head of G-10 foreign-exchange strategy at Bank of America in London, said yesterday by phone. “Given the flows, it seems profit-taking can in the very short term trigger downside moves for dollar-yen. But we’d buy the dip.”

The positive effect on the dollar from speculation the Fed may raise rates next year is amplified by the European Central Bank and Bank of Japan extending their own currency depreciating stimulus programs. Chinaunexpectedly cut borrowing costs on Nov. 21 as the world’s second-largest economy stepped up efforts to combat slowing growth amid a slump in demand for its exports.

Bank of Montreal predicts the dollar will strengthen to $1.22 per euro and 125 yen by the end of next year.

While he’s “bullish” on the dollar, it may pare its gains through December, “given the positioning, and as people tend to trim positions into year-end,” Greg Anderson, the bank’s global head of foreign-exchange strategy, said yesterday by phone from New York. “I fully expect in January and February the dollar to be back to its torrid pace of appreciation.”

WELL, that is disappointing

Posted by Floridagold @ 18:37 on November 25, 2014  

but it was fun watching GOLD go up every tick – to up over $230.00.  Then  POOOF it was gone!   One of these days…………………………………………………..

Buygold @ 17:08 What if’s??

Posted by silverngold @ 18:16 on November 25, 2014  

Yeah, lots of “what if’s”. Best to keep an open mind for sure….. but what if the NWO is responsible, and what if the chemtrail agenda, and the vaccination agenda, and the Codex Alimentarius agenda of loading foods with toxins and removing the nutrition,  and the disintegration of society through immigration laws designed to divide and conquer, and the removal of human rights around the world are all orchestrated by the NWO??? And what if the Queen and the British Monarchy and the Pope are all involved in the above agendas??? And what if they decide to use the ET thing as a distraction so we are all looking for ET’s while they continue destroying this planet?? And what if Prince William is crowned king on his 33rd birthday, and what if it is true that the Queen actually owns the entire world and every country in the world through her corporations, and what if she turns all those corporations over to the new king who then proceeds to foreclose on all the countries of the world and require they all use the one world digital currency?????????????????????????? The “what if” list can be endless, so we just have to take them as they come, roll with the punches, try to foresee the next move and be prepared for it.

And one more what if. What if the US defaults on its currency and loses its world reserve status?? What happens to the PM’s in that event?? What if that is the reason PM’s are being held in place and neither allowed to rise or fall because there has been a long standing agreement as to what the value of them will be when the time comes, and that time is very close. Who was given Eminent Domain over the US when Hillary went to China in 2008 after Obama took over??

Say, it all sounds crazy, but the final what if is, what if it is all true???????????????   All the Best.  Silverngold

Happy Hour ?? FLG 17:56 Must be a bad tic ….. I saw it too on Le Met (24hr gold.com)

Posted by winedoc @ 18:02 on November 25, 2014  

usGoldn

Winedoc

Sigh …… Kitco shows us opening red 🙁

Somewhere over the Rainbow ……..

re: chem trails

Posted by islandgold @ 17:57 on November 25, 2014  

Well.. now moving into fringe territory for many…  I believe ET’s are already here and have been for millennia…  for any with any real interest in this… there is more than ample evidence to do there own research…  I was a skeptic… but not anymore…

In this area of life.. as well as pretty much ALL aspects of human life…  we live in very controlled reality bubbles that have very little to do with life…  from financial markets… medicine, our history, … it just goes on and on…

With respect to chemtrails…. yes there is ALOT more going on…  I am hesitant to speak my truth/understanding…  but (LOL) from my perspective  consciousness studies/quantum physics/human & planetary energetics… other purposes of chemtrails does include weather manipulation via HAARP, blocking of solar/galactic radiation from the sun/deep space as well as messing with the planet’s & human’s frequency resonance patterns….  These are other forms of population and human evolution control of varying sorts..

This is all out there… (on the net) mind you it does take considerable effort to breakthrough one’s own ‘confirmation bias’, a lot of the mis-dis-and all around crap info until one finds bed rock truths… but it is do-able…

For all here… please take what ‘resonates’ and with what doesn’t please disregard!!

Islandgold

 

 

 

 

 

 

appears we got a run away computer or something going on with GOLD

Posted by Floridagold @ 17:56 on November 25, 2014  

Netdania currently showing GOLD up over 200 – but obviously that is not correct or there would be a party going on in here.

 

gold2000up

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