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Another opinion on Trump flip flop

Posted by Auandag @ 22:21 on April 14, 2017  

Buygold @ 21:09 ..After reading that, I would think that Trump has a lot to answer for!

Posted by Auandag @ 21:45 on April 14, 2017  

As for disgust, mine is aimed at Trump.

Bill Bonner

Posted by Buygold @ 21:09 on April 14, 2017  

Authored by Bill Bonner via InternationalMan.com,

By our calculation, it took just 76 days for President Trump to get on board with the Clinton-Bush-Obama agenda.

Now there can be no doubt where he’s headed. He’s gone Full Empire.

Not that it was unexpected. But the speed with which the president abandoned his supporters and went over to the Deep State is breathtaking.

Worst Mistake

Among the noise and hubbub of the election campaign, there was one message coming from the Trump team that was music to our ears.

Middle East wars?

He was against them, he said.

He claimed to have opposed the 2003 attack on Iraq. He said it was one of the “worst mistakes” the country ever made.

As for further involvement, why waste American lives and American wealth on wars you can’t win?

“America First,” he said.

This was a refreshing position. It put the Republican neocons and Establishment Republicans against him; many went over to Hillary rather than risk giving up their think tank grants and consulting fees.

A 2013 poll showed 52% of Americans thought the U.S. should “mind its own business internationally.”

But the elite gained power and money from foreign wars; they weren’t going to give them up. Non-entitlement spending in the swamp goes largely to cronies in the military-security industry.

Pudgy Pentagon

But Donald Trump promised a “new foreign policy.”

No more trying to be the world’s policeman. No more fighting other people’s battles… and making things worse. No more wasting American money and American lives on foolish, unwinnable wars.

Ending America’s pointless and unsettling romp in the desert would be a good first move.

The bill for these misadventures is now said to be $7 trillion. As to Syria, Trump was typically direct. Don’t attack the country, he warned Barack Obama in a 2013 tweet, or “MANY VERY BAD THINGS WILL HAPPEN…”

But then, last week… the last great hope for the Trump administration blew up in Syria. Now the neocons are delighted. And the cronies. And the zombies, too.

Here’s the outlook: no real change to O’care. No cutbacks in entitlements. No attempt to balance the budget. No belt-tightening at the pudgy Pentagon. (Instead, it will get more money.)

And now this: The wars in the Middle East will not only go on… they will accelerate.

For now, the U.S. is not only fighting terrorists. It is also fighting the people who are fighting the terrorists.

It’s a perfect Deep State war: It is guaranteed neither to win nor to lose, but simply to go on indefinitely. This gives the insiders more and more of the nation’s wealth to piddle away in absurd wars in preposterous places.

Meanwhile, Congress adjourned. When it returns in two weeks, it will confront another crisis of its own making.

Bloomberg reports:

Government funding expires on April 28, which will give Congress five days to unveil, debate, and pass an enormous spending bill… or trigger a government shutdown.


“What a mess,” said Paul Brace, a congressional expert at Rice University in Houston, offering his own pessimistic view of the unified Republican control of the House and Senate so far under President Donald Trump. “It was so much easier when all you had to do was oppose Obama.” […]


House Republicans “have differences of opinion. And they aren’t just political differences. They are policy differences,” said Republican Senator Rob Portman of Ohio.

Old Wounds

It will be tough for Congress to come to terms with its budget. The debate will open old wounds and gouge new ones.

Already, the federal budget deficit is expected to average $1 trillion a year over the next 10 years.

Mr. Trump will want to spend more. We need to spend more on infrastructure, on the military… and to revive the economy… he’ll argue.

Many House Republicans, especially the idealists in the Freedom Caucus, will find it difficult to go along.

Some will notice, cynically, that the whole program – including the attack on Syria – is little different from what Hillary had offered.

Consumer prices are already rising, others will note. Besides, who wants to go back to his home district after having signed on to $30 trillion of U.S. debt?

Others, the activists, will want to back Trump. The Obama years have been disastrous, they will say. The typical household is little better off than it was at the bottom of the last recession.

Half of Americans are living paycheck to paycheck. And there are 66 million working-age adults without jobs, they’ll report.

The feds must do something! Increase spending to stimulate the economy (and not coincidentally steer a few bucks to major campaign contributors and other important hacks).

Runaway Locomotive

The more financially alert among members of Congress will recognize that eight years of stimulus has done little to help the real economy.

These realists will see a runaway locomotive headed to a dangerous curve.

They’ll want to know how the feds will finance huge new deficits just as the Fed tightens interest rates.

But the shrewdest among them will call their brokers.

The highest stock prices since the dot-com crash are based on the belief that, somehow, Team Trump will push through a corporate tax cut, leaving businesses with more after-tax money.

“That’s not going to happen,” they will say to themselves.

They will want to get out of the stock market before other investors catch on.

*  *  *

The “Deep State” is more dangerous than ever. It already controls just about every aspect of American life… from health care to education, from the food on our tables to the never-ending war on terror.

Ororeef – No, sorry

Posted by Buygold @ 20:52 on April 14, 2017  

“he was the lessor of TWO evils ‘

Jeb Bush, Lindsay Graham, Rubio and all the other Republicrat scum were the “lesser of two evils” vs. Hillary

Trump was an outsider who was supposedly sick of endless war, was going to “drain the DC swamp”, and go up against the establishment.

He has a lot of proving to do.


Posted by Buygold @ 20:11 on April 14, 2017  

Sorry to hear that. If wrong, and I often am, I’ll be happy to apologize but I will not blindly follow Trump and what appear to be his caving to the establishment, Neocon/Warmongering MIC masters.

I’ll be very, very happy to be wrong and will be happy to apologize if he goes after Obozo, Susan Rice, and other establishment scum. I’m betting he won’t.

If you’re wrong will you come back and admit you were wrong? Where does your loyalty stop?

Samb @ 16:51 I agree completely. So disgusting that I think I’m done here.

Posted by goldcountry @ 19:46 on April 14, 2017  

Dont be too hard on Trump

Posted by Ororeef @ 19:37 on April 14, 2017  

he was the lessor of TWO evils  ..He must first first get control then he can rebuild …Rome wasent built in a day !

The enemy is legion ….retraining the the culture of the last 40 years  is done one policy implemented after another ..

retraining from Welfare to WORK is monumental TASK.      The alternative is to crash the system and drive everyone into dire poverty first, that will fix it also ,but Trump will be blamed for the Depression ,so his chosen path  becomes the lessor of two evils.

Hey Auandag

Posted by Buygold @ 19:17 on April 14, 2017  

I was sold on Donald J. Trump well before the video, so I have no excuse – none.

The video was the icing on the cake. The NWO/Soros/Neocon crowd is so G-Damn smart! I and other supporters fell for the usual CIA Hollywood PsyOp, – no doubt they understand the pulse of the people and the internet.

Feel like such a dupe. Going to be great for gold when we do some pre-emptive strikes around the world, but I never wanted war and death to be the reason our metals went up.


Posted by Buygold @ 18:58 on April 14, 2017  

Well, the MOAB was a better bargain that the 59 cruise missiles. According to the propagandizing press we got 36 ISIS kills for $16 Million, only $444K per kill.

Now, I know some guys, and including myself and throw in a Farmboy, and I bet we’d only charge say $400K per head. I bet we could get at least 18, maybe more of those nasty US/Israel created ISIS pricks – at least.

What did we get besides grief for our $100 million in cruise missiles? 12 Hodgies, some broken down planes?

Gotta love the Neocon MIC’s – Just sayin…


Buygold @ 16:15…That two minute video says it all.

Posted by Auandag @ 18:51 on April 14, 2017  

Money talks…Bullshit walks

Hey Samb

Posted by Buygold @ 18:03 on April 14, 2017  

I respect your opinion and as always this is a discussion where we can agree and disagree.

So please take the time to share why you think the anti-Trump comments are “disgusting”

Please make your case instead of lobbing grenades. Give us some of your intellect.

Just Thought I’d let You know

Posted by Samb @ 16:51 on April 14, 2017  

That the anti Trump comments on this site, over the last several days, I find disgusting!



Starting to think there might be a depreciation/decapitation expense to be captured on all these bomb inventories before tax day April 15…

Posted by macroman3 @ 16:38 on April 14, 2017  

First the 59 native American hair trimmers that have a 35% accuracy, then the $16 million Moab just collecting dust until ISIS mysteriously appeared in Afghanistan and now the BG-61 (sorry, Freudian slip there BuyGold) excuse for “LIFE EXTENSION” program. From a Nuke! Hard to make this up…

Drop a few of these and make Fatboy Slim, capture that depreciation expense and wa la, MIC gravy train rolls on. I hope Fatboy realizes April 15 is now in his timezone…


Mr Copper

Posted by goldielocks @ 16:20 on April 14, 2017  

If people think for one minute China needs us their living in a la la land comfort zone. It is a stragetic move to work things out with Russia as China has been working on them for years while systematically stealing from our economy. They would like no other that have us divided or side tracked with Russia. Pro Isreal went by the wayside giving to the disaster it caused with Obama siding with Mid East that bring is nothing but trouble as they’re a dictatorship that would seek to destroy democracy. Orchestrated after the hoopla of expanding territory? Who knows. We cannot be neutral and call it a moral obligation if one or the other has something to gain even if we don’t. Not  really.

Hey Moggy

Posted by Buygold @ 16:15 on April 14, 2017  

Quite a switch for Ann Barnhardt IMHO. She is a staunch Christian and never dares to criticize Jews of any kind, and in fact has admonished readers for even suggesting they have any culpability.

“This Kushner kid is a snot-nosed hedge fund punk, and something quite rare, a practicing Talmudic Jew.  So, Ivanka had to formally renounce Jesus Christ in order to marry Kushner, and they are now raising their children as “observant” Talmudic Jews.”

“Ivanka Trump is a FORMAL APOSTATE from Christianity.  Yep.  She formally apostasized, that is, she renounced her baptism and denied that Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ is God Incarnate who died for the sins of the world, so that she could marry her husband, Jared Kushner, who, did I mention, has Soros connections up to his eyebrows?”

Nevertheless, kudos to her and others for calling it on Trump. Like Auandag, I bought the “America First” thing with Trump – thought he really meant what he said and intended to drain the swamp. Probably why I’m a horrible stock trader – emotional. 🙂

Remember the powerful, good feelings this commercial gave Trump supporters?

Posted by Maya @ 15:58 on April 14, 2017  

from Williambanzai7



MOGGY 14:33 Jarad (Cassius) “Beware the Ides of MarcH”

Posted by Ororeef @ 15:52 on April 14, 2017  


(speaking so that only ANTONY can hear) I want the men around me to be fat, healthy-looking men who sleep at night. That Cassius over there has a lean and hungry look. He thinks too much. Men like him are dangerous.

Trump Caesar,   Cassius.. Jared


Into what dangers would you lead me, Cassius,
That you would have me seek into myself
For that which is not in me?


Therefore, good Brutus, be prepared to hear:
And since you know you cannot see yourself
So well as by reflection, I, your glass,
Will modestly discover to yourself
That of yourself which you yet know not of.
And be not jealous on me, gentle Brutus:
Were I a common laugher, or did use
To stale with ordinary oaths my love
To every new protester; if you know
That I do fawn on men and hug them hard
And after scandal them, or if you know
That I profess myself in banqueting
To all the rout, then hold me dangerous.
Flourish, and shout


What means this shouting? I do fear, the people
Choose Caesar for their king.


Ay, do you fear it?
Then must I think you would not have it so.


I would not, Cassius; yet I love him well.
But wherefore do you hold me here so long?
What is it that you would impart to me?
If it be aught toward the general good,
Set honour in one eye and death i’ the other,
And I will look on both indifferently,
For let the gods so speed me as I love
The name of honour more than I fear death.

CASSIUS     ( Jared portrays himself a Hero)

I know that virtue to be in you, Brutus,
As well as I do know your outward favour.
Well, honour is the subject of my story.
I cannot tell what you and other men
Think of this life; but, for my single self,
I had as lief not be as live to be
In awe of such a thing as I myself.
I was born free as Caesar; so were you:
We both have fed as well, and we can both
Endure the winter’s cold as well as he:
For once, upon a raw and gusty day,
The troubled Tiber chafing with her shores,
Caesar said to me ‘Darest thou, Cassius, now
Leap in with me into this angry flood,
And swim to yonder point?’ Upon the word,
Accoutred as I was, I plunged in
And bade him follow; so indeed he did.
The torrent roar’d, and we did buffet it
With lusty sinews, throwing it aside
And stemming it with hearts of controversy;
But ere we could arrive the point proposed,
Caesar cried ‘Help me, Cassius, or I sink!’
I, as Aeneas, our great ancestor,
Did from the flames of Troy upon his shoulder
The old Anchises bear, so from the waves of Tiber
Did I the tired Caesar. And this man
Is now become a god, and Cassius is
A wretched creature and must bend his body,
If Caesar carelessly but nod on him.
He had a fever when he was in Spain,
And when the fit was on him, I did mark
How he did shake: ’tis true, this god did shake;
His coward lips did from their colour fly,
And that same eye whose bend doth awe the world
Did lose his lustre: I did hear him groan:
Ay, and that tongue of his that bade the Romans
Mark him and write his speeches in their books,
Alas, it cried ‘Give me some drink, Titinius,’
As a sick girl. Ye gods, it doth amaze me
A man of such a feeble temper should
So get the start of the majestic world
And bear the palm alone.

Trump a victim of ‘Intelligence Infrastructure’?

Posted by Maya @ 15:45 on April 14, 2017  

George Ure had an interesting piece examining how presidents ‘change’ once in office.  He postulates something interesting and little considered by the mainstream:



Jewred, 14:33 Moggy, say it a few times. Rolls off the tongue nicely.

Posted by macroman3 @ 15:23 on April 14, 2017  

And Abu Ivanka, I like that too.

I see a Die-nasty in the making

Auandag @ 13:49 Trump

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 15:20 on April 14, 2017  

I loved everything Trump said about America first, during the campaign. What he said fit my total reversal of the prior 75 years after the ’08 meltdown thesis. But I got suspicious about him when he supported more for the military and more for Israel.

After 2008, many things had to change, like killing corruption (Bernie Madoff and many after him) and killing waste of money. (tons of that out there) So after 2008 we all heard about the winding down of military expenses, and  we all heard about Israel “thrown under the bus” by Obama.

Imo Obama did nothing. People behind the scenes do it all. Now, all of a sudden we have enormous support for Military and Israel. This to me is a sign of people behind the scenes, STOPPING and reversing two big parts of a natural reversal that was unfolding.

Now I’m hearing about all kinds of other things that needed to reverse, but not getting reversed. Like China NATO, Currency values etc.

Posted by goldielocks @ 15:16 on April 14, 2017  

Going after Hillary is a two edge sword. If he goes after her even if many will be for it he will be portrayed as a dictator. Like Kim or others who banished or jailed their adversary’s

Funny but not

Posted by goldielocks @ 14:40 on April 14, 2017  

My daughter in law American Indian ” American” told me her younger sister was taken by ICE mistaken for a illegal alien and held for 24 hours in a deportation tank.

Jared Goes To Iraq! A Picture Story

Posted by Moggy @ 14:33 on April 14, 2017  

This is Jared.




Posted by Moggy @ 14:31 on April 14, 2017  

The response to betrayal may well be hatred.

Moggy @ 12:52 …Actions speak louder than words

Posted by Auandag @ 13:49 on April 14, 2017  

I was starting  to fall for the cool aid about Trump, but time to face facts. When he said that he was not going to prosecute Hillary because she had been through enough trouble….What! If she is not culpable, who in hell is. The line about him playing chess is laughable. I think he makes it up as he goes along. I wonder how Americans are going to respond when they find out they have been duped.

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