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@ Buygold RE: your 21:13 post

Posted by drb2 @ 22:09 on December 7, 2017  

Thanks for that post – My sentiments ….EXACTLY!

 

Ororeef

Posted by goldielocks @ 22:00 on December 7, 2017  

Wow It would really have to be scrutinized to avoid these problems.
As far as costs you have on one side charging way too much on the other Medicare cuts are resulting in people coming in are unable to find a good doctor who takes it. Your right if they don’t have a supplemental they will be charged more. Even if you have a good supplemental or PPO they don’t because they know people can drop it if they can no longer afford it. That problem will become worse if they start making cuts.

“Depends on how you define Privatizing”

Posted by Ororeef @ 21:57 on December 7, 2017  

If they gave me $500,000 which is the value of what I paid in both as Employee and employer then I would give up any Governments payments to myself and keep their hands off my money .

BUT thats NOT what the Politicians mean by privatizing ,if they did that in the beginning and forced you to pay 13 % of earning into a private Insurance ANNUITY that would have worked !

BUTTT thats not going to happen NOW ! its too late …TOO many free loaders with VOTES ..Privatizing now means privatizing the rates (free to rise” )based on coming inflation and capping the benefits to share the misery.The Devil is in the details ..they are word processors (LIErs).

THATS how the Communists do it .  Thats why the poor always vote the wrong way….they always vote to “SHARE “what you have ,not the work or the cost .  Marx said “work according to ability ,receive according to need” ,The problem with that is nobody works according to ability when your not going to receive any more than the next guy. Everythings drops to the lowest productive level  of the slowest worker possible.Why work HARDER ?

goldielocks @ 20:28 on December 7, 2017

Posted by Ororeef @ 21:31 on December 7, 2017  

Be carefull what you ask for ! Privatizing can also mean raising payroll TAX rates ,same thing with Privatizing medicare ..they will raise the rates on what you pay based on the coming inflation rates without controlling Hospital & DR.Payments . At least medicare puts a CAP on what they charge ,thats why I chose plan F as a supplement because I dont pay any out of pocket costs .Its when you choose other plans that nickel & dime you into thinking your payin less ..THATS only if you DONT USE it…Just look at those that dont have a suppliment  or a partial suppliment their 20 % portion is …NOT …based on what Medicare charges ..its based on the Full Retail Bill .If you were charged 20 % of what medicare pays that would be different ,but thats NOT the case.. They argue thats because when the suppliment company pays the BILL its NEGOTIATED RATE,when  YOU  pay the SUpppliment bill its at FULL RETAIL RATE..  I want a CAP on what I PAY  ..You dont want to privatize at the start of a INFLATION CYCLE ….thats when you want the full force of GOVERNMENT to fix rates …Its the MAJOR Corporations pushing to privatize because they are way ahead of you in their calculation of whats coming….YOU wont realize whats happening until after its done,then its too late.

They can bribe politicians to privatize ,you cant..  example BLUE CROSS of VA used to pay out 95% of what the billed in benefits and used the 5% to run the whole business ..its called the pay out ratio ..now they pay out about 70 % in benefits and keep 30 % themselves .THATS what privatization does where they have a shared monopoly ..there is no competition..They just carve up the territory.

elliot,

Posted by treefrog @ 21:18 on December 7, 2017  

it’s good to have your voice here.

Maddog

Posted by Buygold @ 21:13 on December 7, 2017  

JMHO – but a potential nuclear war is all Kabuki theatre. There won’t be a nuclear war, EVER. Because everyone loses.

If us gold bugs are to win the next war it needs to be financial with a return to a gold standard initiated by the east.

If I’m wrong and nukes actually fly -nothing matters. Just hope it hits my house first.

Elliot- Thanks for continuing to post

Posted by Buygold @ 21:07 on December 7, 2017  

and for the Pearl Harbor reminder!

Keep them coming, great to see a new poster! I’m pretty depressed about my life’s investment going to crap but sure appreciate the posts here from everyone and all the input.

Since we’ve been going on six plus years running of brutality, it gets harder to think we are the smartest guys in the room. I know I’m not.

I still think there’s a wicked wind coming – maybe Bitcoin will survive and be the savior…. We’ll see…

Best

 

Ororeef

Posted by goldielocks @ 20:28 on December 7, 2017  

They need to privatize social security and invest it properly not in Gov bonds. As of the 60 s Supreme Court ruling got them off the hook they don’t have to pay it. That revolved around a immigrant who payed into it for a certain amount of years but was found to be a communists and was deported.So nobody guessing felt sorry for him during that time. It gets these crooked politicians off the hook for using it for their own slush fund.
It needs to be privatized with options to manage at least half of it in choices you want. That way they can no longer steal from it and protect the future descendant does not suffer from their Ponzi schemes.

Chinese State Media on North Korea Border Tells Citizens to Prepare for Nuclear War

Posted by Maddog @ 20:05 on December 7, 2017  

http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2017/12/06/chinese-state-media-tells-citizens-prepare-north-korea-nuclear-war/

and Gold drops $17 !!!!!

All tks to the Rig.

The Hedgeless Horseman

Posted by ipso facto @ 19:54 on December 7, 2017  

Update on Miners (GDXJ)

http://www.thehedgelesshorseman.com/chart-of-the-day/update-miners-gdxj/

I will get a 2 % increase in my SOC SEC check ,so they notify me

Posted by Ororeef @ 17:04 on December 7, 2017  

WOW…… that will buy me an extra cup of COFFEE a week ! They steal my purchasing power every year after 60 years of working …YET they give away millions to illegals that worked here two or three years .The moral of that is dont be LAW abiding ,you get screwed !

Mr Copper

Posted by goldielocks @ 16:49 on December 7, 2017  

The economy is like our body it needs to stay in a certain range be temperature of acid base balance to survive. You go too much to left or right you got a problem. Same with parasites they’ll make you sick or use your body as a host. Some may make you a bit sick but not kill you while others will kill you and then move on to the next host. Neither inflation nor deflation is good. You’ll starve with either. We need to demand better money management and laws that even politicians can’t break when spending our money, allowing money to go to illegals in sanctuary states including using our taxes to pay for legal services over being deported, or taking bribes over what bills they pass. There should be no money passed to any law maker passing bills. It won’t stop the campaign donation scam but help. They won’t stop till they’re stopped or have to suffer the same tax problems as everyone else because they can only live on their salary not bribes.

Curious how the INDEX is UP 23 % while BTSC Services drops 31 %

Posted by Ororeef @ 16:44 on December 7, 2017  

bit-index

Mr Copper

Posted by goldielocks @ 16:35 on December 7, 2017  

Taxes would come anyways especially in Democrat elected states. Time for these voters to elect people who will bring down property taxes or expect a boom in those lower tax states as people walk away from these high tax parasites to pay for their sanctuary states. As they go them they move to the next. Average salary workers cant suddenly raise revenue either not to mention retirees on fixed income. Most retired were doers that affected their health or body they don’t have a cushy politician job they can stay in for 50 years even if they turn scenile while getting premium insurance.
Meanwhile politicians going after Medicare Medicaid and Social Security next.
How much money have the stole they claimed borrowed and never paid back from SS through the decades. Like their personal slush fund? And where did all that money go? Did the millions for their sexual harassment payoffs come from our SS money too?
Did they ever pay it back, no. They need to pay back all slush fund money. They are using our SS payments like a Ponzie scheme. They want to cut funds do it in a responsible manner can shrink tax dependent Gov. and overspending. Decrease non citizens getting welfare.
There’s much they can do but have the mentality of a cab driver no puns to cab drivers instead of a economist. It’s all about them and the rest of us can eat cake. Parasites that they will never blame themselves for their mismanagement of our money they will blame us.
This is a bipartisan problem. Obama took billions from SS and has been going on for decades. Then they have the audacity to say it’s going broke. No different than someone managing your savings account stealing from it then saying your balance is negative please give us more money. Why has NO president said SS if off limits and invested it properly. Now we need to demand they keep it off limits manage it better as well as demand them to pay back to what was stolen with interest. If we still had those dollars it wouldn’t be going broke.

Goldilocks re Futures

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 16:34 on December 7, 2017  

Your “buying it themselves and enough of it to make a difference. ”

Maybe that’s why it jumped so high after they announced it. TPTB are very good at putting square pegs into round holes.

Sometimes I think they are trying to create a war situation to avoid a massive deflation situation. There are many signs of a collapse in prices. Then again, maybe they WANT a deflation. That would be like restoring the Dollar to its original value.

$1000 for a new car, and 50 cents/hr minimum wage, .10 cents for gasoline.

76th Anniversary of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor

Posted by Elliott @ 16:29 on December 7, 2017  

Today is the 76th Anniversary of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, HI. in 1941. The following day Hitler and Mussolini declared war on the USA. The USA finally went to war against the Axis Powers (Japan, Germany and Italy). The Axis had been at war already for some 10 years attacking China, Korea, Ethiopia, North Africa, and most of Europe. The Japanese attacked China in 1931 and Italy attacked Ethiopia in 1935. The war in Europe began in 1939 when the Germans attacked Poland. World War II lasted for 4 more years for the USA before we won it along with our allies that consisted mainly of the United Kingdom, Russia, Canada, China and Australia, New Zealand and South Africa. Free forces from France, Netherlands, Poland and Czechoslovakia also aided the Allies cause.

Mr Copper

Posted by goldielocks @ 16:20 on December 7, 2017  

How can they put futures in something not listed and private. What ever they’re up to is probably no good and it’s between them not the actual bit coin because they didn’t get it on the low. The only way I can see them making money on it is actually buying it themselves and enough of it to make a difference.

New York, Real Estate Auto Sales Boom Over?

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 16:13 on December 7, 2017  

Trump talking about removing tax deductions for real estate. Lots of the most expensive real estate suddenly up for sale. New car dealers very slow last two months.

Talking to a realtor yesterday. “Bought my house for $275k in Kings Park NY. I want to leave N.Y. My house now worth $800k, but property taxes $22,000 and nobody can afford to buy it.”  “I don’t want to be the last one out of here to shut the lights off”

The Angry Geologist does Garibaldi

Posted by ipso facto @ 16:12 on December 7, 2017  

http://angrygeologist.blogspot.pe/

Mr Copper

Posted by goldielocks @ 16:11 on December 7, 2017  

I saw the futures thing on Bitcoin and it’s kinda a joke. It’s like a attemp to try to control it like they do everything else which is never good for anyone else but them. Thing is if people put shorts on bitcoin do you think people are gonna say Oh Gee their shorting Bitcoin I better sell! How do they short bitcoin? Who do they borrow it from? Hey Maya are they borrowing your bitcoin lol

Ororeef

Posted by goldielocks @ 16:04 on December 7, 2017  

Hard to imagine you with great grandsons. It must be working. They’re cute, thanks for sharing.

these 2 ex CIA folk think their civil rights were violated

Posted by overton @ 16:02 on December 7, 2017  

welcome to the machine

I do admire that burning the tea leaves in court idea.

“Authorities targeted the Hartes, both former CIA employees, after seeing Robert Harte and his two children leaving a store that sold hydroponic gardening equipment, which is sometimes used to grow marijuana. Johnson County sheriff’s deputies found the brewed tea leaves in trash they collected from a curbside receptacle outside their home. An affidavit claimed field tests indicated the leaves were marijuana.”

 

SWAT-style search for marijuana over tea leaves and garden supplies heads to court

R640

Posted by Maddog @ 15:55 on December 7, 2017  

Tks for the tip….but all I see is a Rig in total control.

Yes we may bounce on the No’s….but I doubt even that.

No sign of a blow off top in the SM, maybe blow off bottom in PM’s….but the SM is the biggie and that is as happy as larry.

Grim times for anyone old school, the Kids are in total control, or think they are, as the Rig grinds on to ever more stupid valuations.

GOLD, TWO YEARS IN A ROW, LATE DECEMBER BOTTOM

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 15:47 on December 7, 2017  

If this happens again, a THIRD gold bottom late Dec early January, then we HAVE to assume TPTB were working to a plan of some kind. Definitely not natural pricing action.

http://schrts.co/J2BmtA

goldielocks @ 14:48 on December 7, 2017 TWO GREAT GRAND SONS they keep me young

Posted by Ororeef @ 15:40 on December 7, 2017  

I edited to protect their privacy..

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