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These Wild Swings We See In Various Rigged “Markets?” Have To Be Danger Signals

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 19:44 on February 21, 2018  

One of these days something ten times bigger than that flash crash of 1000 points on the Dow is going to happen. Remember that day?? May 6th 2010. What happened to the old “market makers”? They would buy into extreme selling, and sell into extreme buying.  To maintain some stability.


ETFs are a “digital-age technology” governed by “Depression-era legislation.”

— Morningstar December 6, 2015

On April 21, 2015, nearly five years after the incident, the U.S. Department of Justice laid “22 criminal counts, including fraud and market manipulation” [10] against Navinder Singh Sarao, a trader. Among the charges included was the use of spoofing algorithms; just prior to the Flash Crash, he placed thousands of E-mini S&P 500 stock index futures contracts which he planned on canceling later.[10] These orders amounting to about “$200 million worth of bets that the market would fall” were “replaced or modified 19,000 times” before they were canceled.[10] Spoofing, layering, and front running are now banned.[3]

When new regulations put in place following the 2010 Flash Crash[9] proved to be inadequate to protect investors in the August 24, 2015 flash crash—”when the price of many ETFs appeared to come unhinged from their underlying value”[9]—ETFs were put under greater scrutiny by regulators and investors.[9] Analysts at Morningstar claimed in 2015 that,[9]


Maya @ 17:08

Posted by ipso facto @ 17:33 on February 21, 2018  

If there’s ever a mug eager to push the button … that’s it!

Richard640 @ 12:56 – I’m BLIND!

Posted by Maya @ 17:08 on February 21, 2018  

I think I’m turning to stone.  I’ve seen the Medusa.

No SM ramp job….got that wrong….what’s new ?????

Posted by Maddog @ 16:05 on February 21, 2018  

Gotta say the way this stuff is trading, the funds must be eating themselves…..this cannot go on much longer before it blows.

Today looks like the top of the bounce for stocks-I went out for 1/2 an hr-came home only to see the collapse in PMs

Posted by Richard640 @ 15:59 on February 21, 2018  

Stocks Slammed: Dow Dumps Into Red As Bonds Puke

Posted by Maddog @ 15:31 on February 21, 2018  


In the Bond after hours they have taken them well off Hi’s, so that justifies yet another SM ramp job….meanwhile PM’s have the damage done and will be sat on, no matter how hi they ram the SM…..lets see if I’m right..

Maddog @ 14:56

Posted by ipso facto @ 15:14 on February 21, 2018  

I spoke too soon, our little rally was quickly squashed. Could anything be more obvious?

This is getting old … Hell I’m getting old watching it!


Posted by Maddog @ 15:07 on February 21, 2018  

Re Fed

Whores and lipstick come to mind….This song is so old…., and of course it is Chinese New Year and the scum love to hit PM’s then.

ipso facto

Posted by Maddog @ 14:56 on February 21, 2018  

Re PM’s….maybe we need to wait for the closes, as Bonds just took out recent Hi’s, so scum selling hell out of PM’s again.

Fed was Doveish, so SM allowed/forced up near 1 %…..but PM’s cannot be allowed a plus sign……getting crazier and crazier.

and here they come…

Posted by Buygold @ 14:53 on February 21, 2018  

No effing surprise, it’s always the same when the Fed says anything…

Brought To You By. The Deep State.

Posted by commish @ 14:47 on February 21, 2018  


PMs seem to have turned and the PM shares like it.

Posted by ipso facto @ 14:28 on February 21, 2018  


Posted by Maddog @ 14:24 on February 21, 2018  

Re Shermans….wow had not seen that connection.

Talk is Billary pocketed @ $ 1 Billion from Hiati……and still they walk free ???????

It could not be more obvious that there are good buyers of PM’s around

Posted by Maddog @ 14:14 on February 21, 2018  

but even more obvious, that the scum are selling paper.

They are way worse, than the relatives from hell and they call this sophisticated economic planning.

macroman3 @ 12:16

Posted by ipso facto @ 13:53 on February 21, 2018  

Sounds good to me. Suppress it for years and the break out will be spectacular … some day.

Rich, re Miners

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 13:46 on February 21, 2018  

I was just this morning thinking about the miners, and assuming they are making profits on higher gold prices, why no nice positive earnings announcements?? News blackout? Or no profits?

Hamlet=Hamlet Act2, Scene2

Posted by Richard640 @ 12:56 on February 21, 2018  


Fred Hickey likes gold

Posted by Richard640 @ 12:48 on February 21, 2018  
Ultimately, what determines the profitability for miners is the price of gold. Look back at the margins for these miners now, compare them to the bottom. At the end of 2015, they were only making $225 net of all in sustaining costs, so the price of gold versus their all in sustaining costs. And now, it’s double that. It’s $460; yet, the miners haven’t rallied. It’s amazing. This is the same level, almost, that $460 was $490 in 2012 when the GDX was not 21 but 45.
So, we have this huge disconnect between the price of gold and the margins of the miners — which are doing very well because they had to keep their costs low — and the price of the stocks. Now, ultimately, that will get corrected. We saw the huge run in 2015, where gold went up 30% in the beginning of 2016 and the miners went up 180%. And we saw that in 2000, when gold went up quite a bit, and the miners went up 1600%. That’s 17 times the average. We saw that in the 1970s coming out of the bear market there. We saw that on the big net buyers went up at least 10 times, and some of them went up as much as 30 times. So, this happens regularly when the miners get depressed. They get out of whack with the price of gold and margins, and then they slingshot higher. And that’s what I think we’re about to see.
We’re right there. I think there’s going to be enormous amounts of money entering this sector once again, just as we saw in early 2000s, just like we did coming out of 2015, the bottom, just as we did coming out of the 1970s mid-cycle correction. So, I’m pretty excited about it.

Silver up 24 cent–PAAS down=15.25-0.50 (-3.17%) As of 12:40PM EST. Most silver stawks up about one percent…

Posted by Richard640 @ 12:42 on February 21, 2018  

Yes ipso, Hi Ho Silver. I keep waiting for the day Musk or Cook or whomever says they have strategically bought a billion ounces for batteries/EV/electrical.

Posted by macroman3 @ 12:16 on February 21, 2018  

Kind of like Uncle Warren did in late 90’s, when he was the good Uncle.

A cobalt panic seems to be on the horizon but silver has more potential.

Maya, you keep baiting me with that Beaver train. Anyways, you just posted another memory train for me like the Black Hills one.

Posted by macroman3 @ 12:11 on February 21, 2018  

A fond memory of hunting elk in Wardner on my 16th BDay.

Starting to think you’re that dude in the cubical next to me at the NSA. This is your life or the Truman Show. Weird.

Are Some Of These Mass Shooters Closet Gun Haters? And Gun Hating Martyrs??

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 11:59 on February 21, 2018  

Sacrificing their own lives, and lives of others, just because of dumb objectives, like they hate guns and private gun ownership?


Re A ZH reader responds to a Peter Schiff article @10:37

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 11:44 on February 21, 2018  

Re Part:

“There’s no doubt this ship is going down but the US is in far better shape than some of the other governments around the globe”

Comment: I do not agree with that statement. That statement would be accurate decades ago, before globalization. The rest of the world sucked us dry, first our gold reserves then our major industries.

The “good guys finish last” and that’s the USA. We were last and because of that crashed in 2008. This is why they kept saying “America first” because the USA ended up LAST. And now its very important for the world to make America first again.

What goes around comes around. Its time for the other countries to be last for a few decades like America was. Then later on we can make the Global Commune-ity first again for humanitarian reasons. 🙂

Silver doing nicely today compared to gold

Posted by ipso facto @ 11:29 on February 21, 2018  

maybe JPM is taking advantage and covering some of it’s massive short position.


Posted by Buygold @ 10:58 on February 21, 2018  

No worries. When the Fed minutes come out they’ll get smacked right back down

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