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Posted by Richard640 @ 22:11 on May 1, 2018  

The Korean War is endable, since there is no fundamental reason it must continue, and big powers (i.e. China) have an interest in ending it.

The war btw Israel and the Muslims, and Muslims with each-other is not endable, since these conflicts are driven by fundamentals. People are governed by emotions, and religious identity governs emotions. (1) The Muslims MUST eradicate Israel since it is a beachhead in their territory. (2) The Muslims are dramatically overpopulated in a land that is already far beyond its natural carrying capacity. If it wasn’t for international welfare, the Palestinians would already be dead, since Gaza and the West Bank deserts cannot support them, and they have nothing of value to export. Iran is overpopulated, so is Egypt, so is Turkey. Without gifts from countries with oil money, the Egyptians would starve to death. Excessive populations combined with depleting oil resources in a mostly desert land is a natural powder keg. The Middle East is guaranteed to explode.

Israel has a lot of africain refugees-they were well treated but entered illegally and had to leave

Posted by Richard640 @ 21:52 on May 1, 2018  

It’s a small country and cannot acommodate the millions that would like to come there from africa-europe and the arab countries-a lot of people from the phillipines and eastern europe come there to work–from a security standpoint they certainly can’t acommodate 1000s or millions of muslims–america deports over 300K hispanics a year…

R640 – I don’t know either, do you?

Posted by Buygold @ 20:08 on May 1, 2018  

https://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-Ed-Contributors/Israel-welcomes-all-seeking-refuge-but-only-if-theyre-Jewish-325660

A lot of Africans have been expelled lately right?

Buygold–u r 100% right–assad and saddam hussein protected christians

Posted by Richard640 @ 19:21 on May 1, 2018  

america and europe did not understand that many countries–due to the many factions/tribes/sects–like the arab countries or yugoslavia under TITO,  needed a STRONG MAN to keep everybody in line–in arab countries the strong man also brutally repressed the muslim fanatics and kept their countries on the secular side–the shah of iran is another example…i just don’t understand how u connect christians in syria  and israel helping them…i am sure if they tried to seek refuge in israel, israel would have given them safe haven…but i don’t know of any great number of them trying to get into israel…do you?

R640

Posted by Buygold @ 19:07 on May 1, 2018  

How many Syrian Christians were taken in by Israel? ZERO

Assad was the protector of Syrian Christians. His country was fine before the US/UK/Israeli supported rebels/ISIS tried to overthrow his government.

Good God, do all of the American public believe the bullshit? I hope not.

Hope Trump is not owned like the rest of the US Govt

Posted by Buygold @ 19:01 on May 1, 2018  

Why Is Israel Desperate To Escalate Syrian Conflict?

After seven years of utter devastation and bloodletting, a consensus has emerged among all the belligerents of the Syrian war to de-escalate the conflict, except Israel which wants to further escalate the conflict because it has been the only beneficiary of the carnage in Syria…

“Thus, Donald Trump is fully aware that the conflict in Syria is a proxy war initiated by the Western political establishments and their regional Middle Eastern allies against the Syrian government. He is also mindful of the fact that militants have been funded, trained and armed in the training camps located in Turkey’s border regions to the north of Syria and in Jordan’s border regions to the south of Syria.”

“More significantly, Karen De Young and Liz Sly made another startling revelation in the last year’s March 4 article for the Washington Post: “Trump has said repeatedly that the US and Russia should cooperate against the Islamic State, and he has indicated that the future of Russia-backed Assad is of less concern to him.”

Mindful of the Trump administration’s lack of commitment in the Syrian proxy war, Israel’s air force conducted an airstrike on Tiyas (T4) airbase in Homs on April 9 in which seven Iranian military personnel were killed. The Israeli airstrike took place after the alleged chemical weapons attack in Douma on April 7 in order to convince the reluctant Trump administration that it can order another strike in Syria without the fear of reprisal from Assad’s backer Russia.”

they believe is the one state in the Middle East that protects Christians and allows them to practice their religion in peace.

Posted by Richard640 @ 18:54 on May 1, 2018  

Christians in the Holy Land: Don’t Call Us Arabs

Aryeh Tepper

Long identified as part of the country’s minority Arab population, Israel’s Christian community has recently begun asserting its own unique identity—one that is deeply tied to the Jewish State of Israel. Meet the Arameans.

When Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu strode into a banquet hall in the northern Galilee town of Upper Nazareth on a mid-December evening in 2014, approximately 1,000 people rose to their feet and gave Netanyahu a standing ovation. Was this typical election-year enthusiasm?

It was enthusiastic for sure. But it was hardly typical. The crowd consisted of Arabic-speaking Christians who insist that they are not Arabs. Instead, they consider themselves “Arameans,” and the event, hosted by the Forum for Christian Enlistment in the Israel Defense Forces, was a Christmastime coming-out party for a community that is celebrating a recent Israeli decision to legally recognize their old-new identity.

Thanks to that recognition, Israeli-Arameans are now on the same footing as other Israeli minorities, such as the Druze and Circassians. And like them, Aramean Christians want their sons to join the IDF. Indeed, Arameans who spoke at the Upper Nazareth event (only a minority of whom actually speak Aramaic, although the aspiration is to revive the language) repeatedly emphasized their desire to defend what they believe is the one state in the Middle East that protects Christians and allows them to practice their religion in peace.

http://www.thetower.org/article/christians-in-the-holy-land-dont-call-us-arabs/

PM sentiment awful for coin buyers

Posted by Richard640 @ 18:25 on May 1, 2018  

‘Price Trumps Trump’ as Gold Investing Hits Bear-Market Lows

Tuesday, 5/01/2018 09:02

GOLD INVESTING among Western households has fallen to the weakest levels since the metal hit its bear-market lows at the end of 2015, writes Adrian Ash at BullionVault.

Used by 71,500 people worldwide since launching in 2005, BullionVault now cares for $2.0 billion of gold, silver and platinum (£1.5bn, €1.7bn, ¥221bn) on behalf of its clients, all stored in specialist vaults in London, New York, Singapore, Toronto and Zurich.

But with gold prices averaging a 0.8% gain last month in US Dollar terms, the number of people starting or adding to their gold holdings fell 13.5% in April from March’s figure.

In total, the number of buyers fell to its lowest level since gold prices turned higher from 6-year lows in January 2016.

Bygold, Poor Israel indeed

Posted by Elliott @ 17:54 on May 1, 2018  

We disagree on this subject and I will answer your statements.

Poor Israel, the perpetual victim of Arab aggression since 1948, 1956, 1973 were the largest attempts of the massed Arab Armies.  Always under bombardment by artillery and rockets, invaded by terrorists sneaking through underground tunnels.

Poor persecuted Israel, that has always asked for peace with its neighbor and getting peace from Egypt and Jordan.  But the other countries supported by Saddam Hussein and now Iran have always vowed to destroy Israel.  Israel offered to return the Golan Heights it had captured in 1967 in return for peace but Syria refused the offer. Similarly, Israeli prime ministers Barak in 2001, and Olmert in 2008 offered peace, but were turned down.  Now, Shia Iran wanting to expand its influence is using the Shia populations to attack Israel. Israel, the only democracy in the Middle East has more Arab citizens than Israelis.  The Israelis allow freedom of religion and all faiths are free to practice in Israel.

The worlds largest open air concentration camp in Gaza full of Palestinians who were always denied peace by the PLO and now Hamas.  The aid money spent by the dogs running Gaza on terrorism instead of spending the money on the welfare of their people is a matter of record. Yes, I remember Israel granting the Palestinians to rule over Gaza as long as they lived in peace.

Luckily for Israel, they are the only country in the M.E. that owns Nuclear weapons, but they have not threatened to use them on anyone except most recently when the Iranian leaders said they could destroy Israel with a couple of nukes.

Let poor Israel fight its’ own wars.  And the USA has.  The US needs to support Israel as they are the only true ally that we can count on in the Middle East.

The Obama administration proved that Israel does not control the American government.  Obama, supported by almost all the Democrats did everything counter to Israel’s interests for 8 years.

Sure Elliott

Posted by Buygold @ 16:59 on May 1, 2018  

Poor Israel, the perpetual victim that always seems to be attacking their sovereign neighbors either directly through airstrikes into Syria, Lebanon or Gaza. Whose lobby owns the US Congress and uses the US as its’ proxy to overthrow govt’s in Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya, and now begs the US to go to war for them in Iran.

Poor persecuted Israel, that has continually expanded their territory since their inception in 1948. Poor apartheid Israel, that owns the worlds largest open air concentration camp in Gaza full of Palestinians.

Poor Israel, the only country in the M.E. that owns Nuclear weapons.

Let poor Israel fight its’ own wars. The US needs to get out of the M.E. and leave the warmongering Israeli’s to do their own dirty work. The US needs to get rid of AIPAC and keep them from corrupting our politicians. Continued support for Israel will mark the end of the US.

israel-palestine-map

Floridagold

Posted by Maddog @ 16:37 on May 1, 2018  

Re yr Oooops !!!!!

Superb !!!

Ipso

Posted by goldielocks @ 16:16 on May 1, 2018  

I can see many more pros than cons from separating form them.These deals do little to benefit us. One way you can look at is is their emboldment going of running to war rather than attempting peace. It’s like a young people taking chances they wouldn’t take since the invention of the birth control. They are emboldened to take chances they might not normally take because we are going to protect them.
Besides the insanity in Europe they are going to no longer be Europe after awhile. We are seeing the death throes of socialism. Yet sadly the progressives believe their governments care about them.

Zero Hedge article about Israel preparing for war

Posted by Elliott @ 14:48 on May 1, 2018  

To be fair, which Zero Hedge is not, the article headline can also be written that “Iran is preparing for it’s long promised war to destroy Israel”.  Iran recently had a bunch of it’s revolutionary guards killed and a couple hundred surface to air missiles destroyed from Israeli airstrikes near Hama, Syria.  The Iranians have shipped ground to ground rockets and missiles to the Syrians, Lebanese, and to Gaza.  Why?  Because they intend to carry out their promise to destroy Israel.  Really nothing new here.  The Iranians have also been shipping the ground to ground missiles to the Shia rebels in Yemen that have been used for numerous attacks on the Saudi Arabian capital.

The Israeli Prime Minister just had a news conference detailing information about how the Iranians have continued their nuclear weapons development in direct violation of the famous Obama Nuclear Deal negotiated by Sec of State John Kerry.  President Trump and French Prime Minister Macron recently agreed that “three giant loopholes in the John Kerry-Barack Obama deal: strengthening inspections at any suspect sites inside Iran, and adding a provision on Iran’s ballistic missiles.  Macron also embraced the larger Trump strategy to contain Iran, which includes confronting its record of cyber attacks, human-rights abuses, support for terrorism and military adventurism.”

The Iran Nuclear Deal (it is a “deal”, not a treaty, because Obama never had it ratified by the US Senate, because he knew they would vote against it) does not allow verification at Iranian sites and legally allows Iran to have nuclear weapons in 2025.  How great of a deal is that for the USA, Europe and the rest of the Middle East?

goldielocks

Posted by ipso facto @ 14:17 on May 1, 2018  

“It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliance with any portion of the foreign world”: it was George Washington’s Farewell Address to us. The inaugural pledge of Thomas Jefferson was no less clear: “Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations-entangling alliances with none.”

Good quotes. Our founding fathers had it right. Too bad now that we have these alliances it might destabilize things to totally withdraw now. I’m sure there ARE many areas which we can withdraw to some extent. The EMPIRE is on the backs of the people of the US and to the benefit of those who have allegiance to no country.

HeHe

Posted by Ororeef @ 14:13 on May 1, 2018  

The king wanted to go fishing, and he asked the royal weather forecaster the forecast for the next few hours.

The palace meteorologist assured him that there was no chance of rain.

So the king and the queen went fishing. On the way he met a man with a fishing pole riding on a donkey, and he asked the man if the fish were biting.

The fisherman said, “Your Majesty, you should return to the palace! In just a short time I expect a huge rain storm.”

The king replied: “I hold the palace meteorologist in high regard. He is an educated and experienced professional. Besides, I pay him very high wages. He gave me a very different forecast. I trust him.”

So the king continued on his way.

However, in a short time a torrential rain fell from the sky. The King and Queen were totally soaked.

Furious, the king returned to the palace and gave the order to fire the meteorologist.

Then he summoned the fisherman and offered him the prestigious position of royal forecaster.

The fisherman said, “Your Majesty, I do not know anything about forecasting. I obtain my information from my donkey. If I see my donkey’s ears drooping, it means with certainty that it will rain.”

So the king hired the donkey.

And thus began the practice of hiring dumb asses to work in influential positions of government
and the practice is unbroken to this date

Ipso

Posted by goldielocks @ 14:12 on May 1, 2018  

I wonder if the people in Israel ever get tired of being draged into war but then wonder the same thing about the neighboring countries.
There is a Jewish satire , which one are you Jew type list. On the list is a Bibi type that goes he never met a non Jew he didn’t want to bomb. Hope Israeli stays safe.
Our founding fathers warned us to stay out of permanent alliances. There was wisdom in that. It was going on then, it still is.
They got us involved in a lot of wars.
They get the young ignorant but for most part not stupid to do their bidding…

Alliances, we had always felt, were not our sort of thing. They would involve us in obscure quarrels and sordid rivalries which were none of our concern. They seemed to be both undesirable and unnecessary in view of our special geographic and political circumstances.

“It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliance with any portion of the foreign world”: it was George Washington’s Farewell Address to us. The inaugural pledge of Thomas Jefferson was no less clear: “Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations-entangling alliances with none.”

It became more than a policy; it became an expression of a national point of view about ourselves and our place in the world, a view which contrasted the simple virtues of our Republic with the subtle and complex qualities (some said corruptions) of Europe. From 1789 until the Second World War, excepting only our relationship with Panama, the United States refused to enter into treaties of alliance with anyone. In the 25 years since the end of the war, however, in a dramatic reversal of national policy, we have allied ourselves with half the world.

goldielocks

Posted by ipso facto @ 13:46 on May 1, 2018  

We’ll see how many windows the anarchists break today … and yes they’ll be on TV.

Peachy

Posted by ipso facto @ 13:42 on May 1, 2018  

US Officials: Israel Preparing For War With Iran, Seeking US Support

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-01/us-officials-israel-preparing-war-iran-seeking-us-support

Ipso 9:53

Posted by goldielocks @ 13:10 on May 1, 2018  

I guess dead beats find away to get on TV. CNN probably making it their priority. Meanwhile Iron man went on this weekend in Texas. Hardly any news. Had to text my friend who went to support her bother both Army her brother prior special forces. Left me with the kids lol
She said it was finished Sat.

silver

Posted by treefrog @ 12:28 on May 1, 2018  

east-west divergence between “caution” and “danger.”  creeping up slowly this morning.

we live in interesting times.

fun graphic:

http://didthesystemcollapse.com/

 

midafternoon:  seems to be holding about a buck, six bits – give or take.

what’s weird is that JNUG is the only one showing strength-the others are red–surprisingly the silver stocks-but not SLV and Sil

Posted by Richard640 @ 12:13 on May 1, 2018  

are green or near green with silver down a big 26 cent..

https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/JNUG?p=JNUG

Re Lords back powers to block or change EU exit deal

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 12:11 on May 1, 2018  

There’s another sign of taking pain away from Europe. Evidently Europe is the dominant country on the planet. My suspicion since I was a kid. Why else would the prior isolationist independent country back them up in WW I and WW II?

All the “crap” in the USA came from Europe. The HMOs and all this stupid recycling, energy saving, global warming, illegal immigration baloney, all pushed by Europe or the people that control Europe and the USA.

Why no clouds of dust that last for days

Posted by eeos @ 12:07 on May 1, 2018  

And only black smoke visible? Where’s my super fine powder that stayed in the air for days?

I am a republican-I believe in free mkt capitalism but some regulation is necessary…but c’mon guys, we all know that left to their own devices the

Posted by Richard640 @ 12:07 on May 1, 2018  

wall streeters and bankers will rape and pillage..Wells Fargo was just caught again…JPM is a criminal enterprise–search its long list of fines…and then there’s the evil Squid=

Bloomberg News
May 1, 2018, 10:27 AM CDT

Goldman Sachs has agreed to pay about $55 million each to New York’s Department of Financial Services and the Federal Reserve Board to resolve allegations that its foreign exchange traders improperly shared information about client orders on an electronic chat room, putting clients at a disadvantage, people with knowledge of the matter said, Bloomberg News’ Greg Farrell reports.

Funny There Were No Trade Talks Or Negotiations Or Threats Of Trade Wars In 1975 When Everything Was taken Away From The USA.

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 12:01 on May 1, 2018  
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