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Buygold @ 20:45

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 23:25 on May 21, 2018  

Re “Who in their right mind? Apparently US” re Dropping an atom bomb.

I don’t think “we” did it. I say “they” did it. Nobody I know wanted any of the crap that went on. They did it using US identity. Think about all the things “we” did, that we didn’t want to do.

Maya

Posted by goldielocks @ 23:04 on May 21, 2018  

Wow

100 foot Fountains

Posted by Maya @ 22:59 on May 21, 2018  

…five miles downwind of me.  This is Fissure 22, courtesy of the USGS.  This one supplies the river flow to the ocean.  Note the trees in foreground for scale.

sm22

It is really hard to photographically capture the incandescent orange of lava against a dark background, but this picture does a good job.  This is what your eye would see from the helicopter.  The color is good.

–Maya… “Red skies at night”

The $ opens down…but no matter…G&S give up modest gains & r down slightly

Posted by Richard640 @ 22:42 on May 21, 2018  

http://futures.tradingcharts.com/marketquotes/DX.html

Buygold

Posted by goldielocks @ 22:38 on May 21, 2018  

I was not personally bothered by his comments on vaccines. We’ve all heard it before. They may not even be pushing a agenda. They really believe that vaccines are safe despite all the money that go out to vaccine injury or death. The ones that bother me the most are the ones who are willing to inject these mass vaccines now from birth on children to make them feel safe. Well if they are vaccinated why should they worry like they’re carrying a disease. Most this debunked jargon that comes out are shills or paid by the manufacturers to people that have done little research on them. Like only a tiny amount, not to mention all the vaccines combined to a tiny body or the other toxic adjuvants they got out of having to label saying it’s a tiny amount but not when accumulated.
I’m not defending him by no means but as far as me I’ve seen his type before. The gov is there to protect you and many work for it too. Lol
So up to you guys but think it’s in his personality.
No one should have to worry about someone coming along calling them names every time they say something but in this case think he was directing it against the subject and is his misinformed opinion although arrogant as it was. Every month a new baby’s being posted or more either damaged or killed by vaccines and the for sale CDC keeps wanting to add more. Most of them are boys.

Mr Copper

Posted by goldielocks @ 22:04 on May 21, 2018  

Too tired to absorb your whole message. It would be nice if these jobs came back but they’re not. Not just the fact more and more machines are replacing people including in the food sector but pay and unions. Have you ever watched shark tank? They give entrepreneurs money and help them with their business. Over and over they say they will get the cost to make things down by outsourcing to China. I watched it a few times and was impressed when one refused to have it made overseas she took pride in Made in America and she was Asian American.
It’s not coming back. Even if it does they hire mostly immigrants toward the end of it anyways. Would be nice if they could make can openers here again though. The ones they have now are junk and fall apart. Maybe that cheap metal who knows.

Buygold @21.07. Just wanted to let you know that I agree with the

Posted by Equisetum @ 22:02 on May 21, 2018  

sentiment posted by silverngold @ 21:44, which means that you have my support for whatever you, ipso and others in admin feel you need to do to keep this the excellent forum that it is.  Thank you for your patience and efforts on our behalf.  Equiz

Buygold @ 21:07….Glad to hear it!!

Posted by silverngold @ 21:44 on May 21, 2018  

I try to use the attitude “if you can’t say something nice, don’t say anything at all”, But this “Idiot” poster sure makes me see red over and over and I have had to bite my tongue many times so I didn’t again “let my temper take the wheel”, so to speak. I agree with what you are feeling and I back it 100%. All the best from Silverngold!!

Elliott – your “lies” comment about vaccines

Posted by Buygold @ 21:07 on May 21, 2018  

I would much prefer that you state your position as “here’s another view” Or “I disagree with your point of view because”

Truth is, we’ve given you the benefit of the doubt as to maybe not being a troll. First I thought, well, he’s just offended by criticism of Zionists, Israel, 911 Truth etc. but now it seems to be any narrative that isn’t the gov’t propaganda narrative, and you continue to call people on this board names.

MM3’s article documents this very well.

You are not being protected from “disinformation” by a compassionate government who is deeply troubled to see you believing erroneous beliefs, you are being herded back toward the official narrative by a power establishment which understands that losing control of the narrative means losing power.”

Trolls exist to sow discord. I think you are trying to control the narrative on this site and sow discord.

Sure, you mix in a gold article here and there, but mostly it seems you’re here to just disagree.

I’m pretty close to bouncing you. It won’t take much more.

Nobody in their right minds would nuke another country

Posted by Elliott @ 21:07 on May 21, 2018  

The types of leaders that we see in North Korea, Iran, Pakistan (against India)…..maybe not always in their right minds.  And if the Iranians get their nuclear bombs, then the Saudis will want theirs, as will the UAE and others.  Less nukes out there the better.

Now in 1945, the primitive a-bombs saved the US and its allies at least a million casualties that would have been suffered in the invasion of Japan.  Probably ten times that number in Japanese casualties.  Best decision Harry Truman ever made.

Dresden was primarily a British operation, and the Brits did not like the Germans too much in 1945 since they feel the Germans started it with the bombings of Warsaw, Rotterdam, and of course London.

Mr. Copper

Posted by Buygold @ 20:45 on May 21, 2018  

“I was trying to say, nobody or no country in their right mind will EVER send an atom bomb to another country”

I guess I’ll have to rest my case. FWIW, I agree with you. Who in their right mind? Apparently US, at the end of a war we already won. Then there’s Dresden…

Goldilocks and Buygold

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 20:14 on May 21, 2018  

Buygold re your “If everybody had em’ maybe everybody would be more polite. ”

Goldilocks re your: “I don’t agree with the if everybody had a nuke they’d be more polite.”

Comment:

I was not implying that. At all. I was trying to say, nobody or no country in their right mind will EVER send an atom bomb to another country. So why keep telling the other countries they can’t have one??

Its all saber rattling bull crap. To maintain fear and need defense spending that will NEVER get used. Just end the entire subject by DARING some country to “go ahead, make my day”. “And we will incinerate your country on a weekend.” The countries are all too intermingled.

Nine Eleven suggested to me the evolution of a new modern way to fight a war. The old way is somewhat redundant. Like a buggy whip. Look at what happened. With only 19 people.

Goldilocks:

re your “Then we have robots that can do a lot of those jobs ” “The aluminum industry is a clear example of China’s cheating.”

Comment: The robot story to me a lot of hype to shut us up. You need HUGE volume production to make robotics viable. Plus there are way too many millions of jobs that simply can’t be done with robots.

The importation of cheap Aluminum thing to me is also bull crap. Its ok imo and GOOD to import cheap natural recourses metal or oil, and keep ours in the ground for the countries  future. The big sin is importing all the cheap consumer product we can make here and sell.

Plastic toys, can openers, coffee mugs, picture frames, pens pencils etc etc etc. Turn junk into money, and stop letting the other countries get away with that. Simple tit jobs that require hands on. Clothing and consumer electronics. Why am I the only one that sees these things? Am I gifted or something??

Why import GARBAGE things and export GOOD stuff?? Its dumb. Food Energy Aircraft? Good stuff. Plastic toys, can openers, coffee mugs, picture frames, pens pencils GARBAGE with a price tag.

Got gold?

Posted by Richard640 @ 20:01 on May 21, 2018  

There is no pension fund that can buy 10-year paper at 1.3% when they need 8% to break even. They are locking in a 10 year loss. They can’t do it.

So, where does Armstrong see big trouble brewing? Look no further than the bond market. Armstrong explains, “The bond market is going down. . . . We’ve already started into it. . . .You have to understand both Japan and Europe have destroyed their bond markets. They have completely and utterly destroyed them. They are the buyers. That’s it. There is no pension fund that can buy 10-year paper at 1.3% when they need 8% to break even. They are locking in a 10 year loss. They can’t do it. We have been helping major funds shift into equities because it is the only place they can go. . . . Once you start seeing the cracks in Europe, you are going to see interest rates rise faster than you have ever contemplated in your life. There is nobody in their right mind that can buy an Italian bond at 1.3%. It’s just not going to happen. Once the ECB is forced to stop, those rates are going to jump to 10% instantaneously. Once it starts to crack, that’s it, it’s gone. What is going to make everyone know it is cracking is when you see rates going up dramatically, and the ECB is at a point it just can’t buy any more.”
Near the end of last year, legendary financial and geopolitical analyst Martin Armstrong said the Trump tax cuts were going to be a very positive move for the U.S economy. He was right. What does he say now about the U.S. dollar? Armstrong predicts, “They keep talking about the U.S. debt is $20 trillion. Global sovereign debt is over $200 trillion. The U.S. basically is holding up the whole world, and U.S. debt is why it is the reserve currency. Europe couldn’t make it because they could never consolidate the debt. . . . What you have is a crisis that has been building in emerging markets to sell their debt they issued in dollars. The dollar going up is what breaks the back of the world monetary system. . . . The world monetary system is going to do great if the dollar goes down. Everybody is going to be borrowing more and say this is fantastic. It’s only when the dollar goes up that we get things that break. . . . The U.S. always wants the dollar down, but it’s not going to work that way. . . . The dollar is probably going to go up pretty strong until late 2021 at the latest. . . . The whole thing is going to break. The Federal Reserve has become the central bank of the world by default.”

Armstrong does not see a big War in the near term, but one is brewing in the Middle East. What Armstrong does see right now is “increasing civil unrest.”Got gold?

Elliott 19:21

Posted by goldielocks @ 19:49 on May 21, 2018  

Good luck with that. Go take as many as you want, just don’t try to force them on others.

Samb @ 18:00

Posted by ipso facto @ 19:48 on May 21, 2018  

Somehow I never figured you for a Kardashian fan! 🙂

I’m grokking on what you’re saying. I’m plenty sick of the Royal Wedding stuff myself.

vaccinations: debunking the usual lies of the anti-vaccine crowd

Posted by Elliott @ 19:21 on May 21, 2018  

https://mic.com/articles/85725/7-biggest-lies-spread-by-the-anti-vaccine-movement-debunked-by-science#.Lj0WxqBGv

YouTube’s right in there with the Bankster-Necon-Big Pharma program

Posted by ipso facto @ 19:11 on May 21, 2018  

YouTube jumps in with Big Pharma, banning video channels that dare discuss natural cannabis medicine

(Natural News) The Natural News YouTube channel has been taken down – this time because we dared to discuss natural cannabis medicine.

YouTube has devolved into a tool of censorship, and Big Pharma is taking advantage of it, banning video channels that discuss natural medicine. YouTube is specifically targeting a video on the healing potential of cannabis oil, which is liberating more and more people from various pharmaceuticals that don’t work but do cause more harm.

YouTube shut off the Natural News Health channel with a single strike, all because a 43-second video described the healing potential of CBD oil. In a letter to the Health Ranger, YouTube claimed that the video on cannabis oil was subjecting viewers to “risk of serious physical harm or death.” Any talk about healing cancer without chemotherapy and radiation is dangerous, subjecting people to violent truths that they must be shielded from. In reality, patients are suffering under needless chemotherapy treatments. Equally important, you’re right to learn about the devastating effects of chemotherapy and the benefits of cannabis oil no longer exist on YouTube, because Big Pharma doesn’t want the discussion to take place, for the truth to get out. View the screenshots of the YouTube’s insidious strike here and check out the “dangerous” video that got the Health Ranger channel banned. Here’s the “offensive” text from the video:

A 52-year-old terminal cancer patient turned to cannabis oil after all chemotherapy treatments failed. Two years later, her stomach cancer is in complete remission.
Doctors initially told her she had just six weeks to live.
Today, the woman is living a happy, healthy, productive life.
“Cannabis oil should be legalized for medical purposes — people are dying and the chemotherapy isn’t curing them,” she says.

cont. https://www.naturalnews.com/2018-05-21-youtube-jumps-in-with-big-pharma-banning-video-channels-that-discuss-natural-cannabis-medicine.html#

Mr Cooper

Posted by goldielocks @ 19:03 on May 21, 2018  

I don’t agree with the if everybody had a nuke they’d be more polite. We wernt when we invaded Iraq. They also believe in blowing themselves up. On top of that it could leave the possibility of certain groups getting a hold of dirty bombs that could land on our shores or others. How much of that uranium that Hillary sold Russia wound up elsewhere maybe even Korea?

As far as trade it is complicated. Not just NAfTA Clinton also behind, there was China entering the WTO. Part of the rules to that was to allow no barriers to foreign investments which opened up US companies to move there.
Then we have robots that can do a lot of those jobs now anyways so they’re not coming back less we play terminator and get rid of the robots.
People think we’ll other things need to come along. What if they don’t, and if they do will it be more robotics? That’s the way it looks now from self driving cars to automatic machines instead of people to buy or make things. They have a picture of MC Donald’s order machines concerning wanting 15 hr that says meet your replacement. At what point will people except the few who run them not even being needed anymore?

As far as trade there is issues that even the left agrees with.

The aluminum industry is a clear example of China’s cheating. We have observed the cheating first hand through research my firm and I have previously conducted on the sector. Research we conducted in 2015, under the name Dupré Analytics, showed that state-owned banks in China made billions of dollars in loans to shell companies to purchase aluminum from China-based aluminum giant, China Zhongwang. It is highly unlikely that these loans, which were made to entities that were not even remotely creditworthy, occurred without approval from the highest levels of the Chinese government. Late last year, the U.S. Department of Justice filed a complaint against a California company called Perfectus Aluminum, alleging that Perfectus was an affiliate of Zhongwang and leveling a different accusation—that Perfectus had evaded $1.5 billion in U.S. import duties. (Perfectus has denied the DOJ’s allegations, and the case is pending. Perfectus is also suing my firm for claiming its aluminum was fraudulently obtained.)
Last year, a different Chinese alumnimum giant, China Hongqiao Group, was also alleged to be cheating. Hongqiao, which is listed on the Hong Kong stock exchange, claims to be the world’s largest aluminum producer. Research firm Emerson Analytics released a report alleging Hongqiao was vastly overstating its profits and committing widespread fraud. One of the points Emerson Analytics raised was the company’s reported expenses on electricity, which they claimed were too low to be true. Hongqiao’s major outside electricity supplier is owned by a local government.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/cblock/2018/03/13/yes-china-does-cheat-in-trade-the-rest-of-the-world-needs-to-wake-up/amp/

IP theft or espionage costing billions
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/money/2018/03/23/technology/china-us-trump-tariffs-ip-theft/index.html

The Truth About Vaccines From The Most Prominent Vaccine Researcher Dr. Sherri Tenpenny

Posted by joe12pack @ 18:17 on May 21, 2018  

It ain’t fair

Posted by Samb @ 18:00 on May 21, 2018  

For weeks now, the news is all about the Royal wedding…on and on and on. Get a clue News Media… many of us don’t give a damn, could care less. But, in the process you have driven the Kardasian news out of view. Disgusting!!  We need more Kardasian news…we are being starved!

Trump was right about Obama spying on him

Posted by Elliott @ 17:11 on May 21, 2018  

Plus, remember the FBI CounterIntell guy, Strzok, texting his FBI girlfriend Lisa Page include an exchange about preparing talking points for then-FBI Director James Comey to give to President Obama, who wanted “to know everything we’re doing.”

The message, from Page to Strzok, was among thousands of texts between the lovers reviewed by Fox News. The pair both worked at one point for Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s probe of alleged collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.

Page wrote to Strzok on Sept. 2, 2016, about prepping Comey because “POTUS wants to know everything we’re doing.” According to a newly released Senate report, this text raises questions about Obama’s personal involvement in the Clinton email investigation.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/may/17/so-we-can-all-admit-trump-was-right-about-obama-sp/

Maddog, Mr. Copper

Posted by Buygold @ 17:03 on May 21, 2018  

Hey Maddog – I think draining the swamp and continuing the policies of the swamp may be two separate issues. I would agree that time is on his side with Russiagate and that certain aspects of the swamp are panicking, but most of them are just Dems caught doing what Dems do – being corrupt. The policies of the swamp seem to be continuing at least in the Middle East, I am encouraged by talks with North Korea but we’ll see what happens.

Mr. Copper – I know I’ll get some grief from Ipso 🙂 but I’ve thought the same thing about nukes. If everybody had em’ maybe everybody would be more polite. The idea that one country or one people is more likely to use them seems a little arrogant to me, especially when we here in the US are the only ones that have ever used them. You’re right, de-fanging Iran or NoKo doesn’t make us any money and I’m not sure how we’ve become the world’s policemen.

Richey re USD, Dow, and Rates, Should Reverse Soon, Maybe Even Tomorrow.

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 16:57 on May 21, 2018  

I think those three trends for the last month to 6 weeks are all one big hot air mistake. Psychology, mind over matter related. Placebo effect.

the $ index came .530 off the high & ended up just .037

Posted by Richard640 @ 16:46 on May 21, 2018  

http://futures.tradingcharts.com/marketquotes/DX.html

@Buygold Good Points You Brought Up.

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 16:29 on May 21, 2018  

Roger that, me too. I smelled a few a few rats right away when he was campaigning. At first I loved him. But after a while he started that “love fest” talk for Israel and the Military. He also said he was against raising the minimum wage.

At first I thought he just wants all their votes. Smart. Because those three things have nothing to do with helping or making America great again.

I also remember clearly when he said….”I don’t want to be president of the world” and right after the election, TPTB started wheeling him around all over the planet.  Like he on a hand truck or wheel barrow.

Plus everything else he/they are doing won’t put any extra money in our pockets. How is Korea and Iran defanged going to make us money? Who gives a crap? I don’t. My approach would be….”Here, have a Bomb on us, free, and I dare you to use it”

What’s with all the macho crap? Remember the “weapons of mass destruction” that were never found? In Iraq? This China Trade thing is another bunch of hot air. Going against China is the same as going against a bunch of corporations. That they REFER to as “China”.

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