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Ororeef

Posted by goldielocks @ 21:31 on June 20, 2018  

I’m glad you got the the ENT but not quite sure what you were saying. Your doctor put you on a Statin drug you didn’t need and didn’t accociate it to these hiccups either? Statins are dangerous. I really encourage people to look up side effects and consider risk reward.
You SHOULD ALSO of been taking CoQ10 with a stain. It depletes CoQ10 and will result in muscle damage and other things all not good not to mention again your hearts a muscle. Check side effect but won’t tell you cause just muscle damage. The manufactures know it too. It will kill you. I’m surprised you didn’t also have muscle issues and fatigue. It can also cause memory issues. Looks like those annoying hiccups saved you from something far worse.

if OIL were priced without the Futures rig then Venezuela would be in much better shape Too.

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 20:47 on June 20, 2018  

There is no stability in the currencies, the base unit of account, so there can be no stability with prices.

Maddog

Posted by ipso facto @ 19:54 on June 20, 2018  

True enough … if the PMs were priced without the rig then SA would be in much better shape … for a while anyways. I think Maggie Thatcher was right on what she said about socialism that it works great until you run out of other people’s money. In the case of SA and mining those in charge seem to want to hasten the process.

ipso facto

Posted by Maddog @ 19:24 on June 20, 2018  

RE Foolhardy

I know SA is on the road to hell, but the scum sitting on PM’s ain’t helping at all, either.

9 O’Clock Eastern 8 O’Clock Central Time

Posted by commish @ 18:20 on June 20, 2018  

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Ororeef @ 17:04

Posted by ipso facto @ 18:14 on June 20, 2018  

Glad to have you back, sounds like a very nasty ordeal!

Alex Valdor @ 16:20

Posted by ipso facto @ 18:10 on June 20, 2018  

“Until they get their act together.”

I don’t think that’s going to happen for a very long time. I see them going down the same road as Venezuela to an eventual disaster.

Australia must be starting to look pretty good to those white farmers!

Why dont Trump

Posted by Ororeef @ 18:08 on June 20, 2018  

take all the children and Parents put them on a cruise ship ,and send it to Guantanamo Cuba ..The climate is wonderfull ..The press has no access to it…they can live aboard or use the military land base until congress solves the problem…seems simple enough.The climate and languague is the same as Central AMERICA
they should feel right at home…

Dr.s

Posted by Ororeef @ 17:04 on June 20, 2018  

Iv had severe hiccups for 4 weeks accompanied by strong muscle spasms in the throat..that were about to drive me to drink !I receintly went to a ear,Nose Throad specialist….He looked at what my primary care physician had me on and then did a quick examine of my throat ..He then handed me a PRESCRIPTION that had a short sentence on it…STOP taking that atorvastatin immediately !I was dumb founded..I said thats it ?
he said I cant find anything wrong with you.Its been 6 days now without hiccups and severe muscle spasims in my throat…He also said Im going to call him..HE NEVER SHOULD HAVE PUT YOU ON THAT DRUG,He should have known better..These spasims were killing me ,,gasping for breath between spasims …This is from a drug frequently prescribed for chlorestorol ..which I was slightly higher than norm,which I later found was actually beneficial to me at my age 80..My first inclination was to go to see him and “take him out”..then I calmed down and decided wait and see what develops.It was unbeliveable what that drug did to me..
I post this hoping that no one her ever goes through what I did .

Ororeef

Posted by goldielocks @ 17:02 on June 20, 2018  

Was wondering what happened to you.

Thanks for new password

Posted by Ororeef @ 16:45 on June 20, 2018  

havent been able to post for several weeks..got rejected with a message that the host mailbox is FULL..etc

Maddog

Posted by goldielocks @ 16:33 on June 20, 2018  

No argument there. They can do what they want never have to settle. The buyers of gold can get naked shorted so why bother. There’s few of them compared to the rest of the equity buyers until there’s a catalyst for the rest to have at least a portion of their portfolio in the PMs.

IPSO – or send aid , or travel there

Posted by Alex Valdor @ 16:20 on June 20, 2018  

Until they get their act together , and the world’s do-gooders can provide safe passage for the displaced , uncompensated white farmers.

Foolhardy to invest there …

Posted by ipso facto @ 16:05 on June 20, 2018  

Gold street is where South Africa’s mining history goes to die

That’s where Paseka Selemela has been guarding cars since 2010, when the scaffolding business he worked for closed. Prior to that, he was an assistant at a now-shuttered mine owned by AngloGold Ashanti Ltd. Nor has he found work in other gold mines around the town, home to the world’s deepest shafts. Many of his friends and family members also have joined the legions of the retrenched, including 8,500 people in the area last year alone.

“These people can’t find jobs, just like me,” Selemela, 34, said under the winter sun, wearing a torn, dirty Chelsea soccer club shirt and jeans that hung loosely on his thin frame. “They try at the retailers, but there is nothing available there. They are employing fewer people because people are buying less. There’s no money.”

Additional cuts are to come across mines and towns in South Africa, once the world’s biggest producer of gold. A volatile currency, uncertainty about regulations and demand, labor union tensions, harder-to-access ore, high operating costs and falling prices mean about half of gold and platinum operations are loss-making.

More than 6 million people are unemployed and looking for work, taking the jobless rate to about 28 percent, a 15-year high. This excludes 2.5 million discouraged job seekers.

more http://www.mining.com/web/gold-street-south-africas-mining-history-goes-die/

goldielocks

Posted by Maddog @ 15:38 on June 20, 2018  

I am an ex commodity guy, so not too aufait with the technicals on stox….if it’s going up then there are too many buyers, same going down etc.

Except now we have rigged mkts, where one side can do what it likes has unlimited volume and never has to settle…in fact I would say we have no mkts, just prices that the scum want us to see.

Maddog

Posted by goldielocks @ 14:45 on June 20, 2018  

Yep and they have level 1 trading platforms that work at lightening speed and a lot of money that can get in and out first. They could deplete these ETFs quickly, like nugt who then can do what? Reverse split because they too need money no different than the penny stocks doing the same but for different reasons.
IMO think it could be part of the manipulation at times when they park money want it to rise like when the equity stocks that were along with the long PM ETFs were R splitting driving people to the long equity ETFs and short gold after the rise, while equities longs who were forward splitting back when because after the 08 carnage no where to park except stocks so they did. Did you see that?

Portugeezer

Posted by goldielocks @ 14:28 on June 20, 2018  

It’s hard to say what banks are doing because they have much more inside information on what other banks worldwide are doing, where money is parking or going to park.
The question is if these ETFs track different stocks does they’re buying, selling affect these stocks either way. So are these bankers controlling any moves on the general PM market compared to a few moving on fundamentals? To a point anyways esp if it’s being sold because they need money or when they expect the dollar to rise per say.
I’m guessing they could also my producers if they are giving dividends but more likely to buy ETFs where they are less likely tracked. I doubt they buy penny stocks or any non dividend stocks and if they do buy a producer with no division they wouldn’t stay in long I’m guessing. So they probably go up in sympathy by the private sector as the others in a rise get more expensive.

ETF’s etc

Posted by Maddog @ 14:06 on June 20, 2018  

My take is that ETF’s are purely to divert buyers away from real Gold. They were created to enable funds that were banned from Commodity trading, so could not buy Crimex, only shares or physical, which they have hugely succeeded in.

As for manipulation the scum don’t bother to be smart and hide it in complex option structures, they just outright sell or buy, no-one talks about it, or investigates it, or if they do no-one gives them the time of day.

By the way it looks like the overnight SM mkt has a 1 % downside limit, from the scum…watch how often it bounces off 1 % down…

re banks are buying Gold for their own accounts

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 13:45 on June 20, 2018  

I wonder what currency they would use to start with. If Russian Rubles, gold is 91% higher than 5 years ago. I assume they have to convert rubles  first. All commodities are priced in dollars. So they need 63.6 Rubles to buy a dollar, then pay $1,272 for the ounce. So they need 80,900 Rubles to buy an ounce.

Average Russian wage according to official statistics is 26628 rubles per month in 2013. Please note that these wage is distributed very unequally among different groups of people, among different regions. About 1/3 ounces per month?

Average Americans earn about $4000/month or 3.14 ounces per month.

I did this fast, maybe somebody else should check it. Bottom line gold looks too expensive for foreigners to buy, until THEIR currencies go up and ours goes down.

Hi Goldie

Posted by Portugeezer @ 13:18 on June 20, 2018  

I would bet that banks are buying Gold for their own accounts, but warning their clients not to go near it.

Also, I would bet that they are using the ETFs for short-term leverage when they are “told” it is all clear.

Samb

Posted by goldielocks @ 12:58 on June 20, 2018  

The ETFs can be bankers who can sell it if they need money. They can be more illusive than say buying individual stocks. Imho people should do what they feel is best for them but keep that in mind. They won’t buy physical so much but can by something like GLD.

Buygold

Posted by goldielocks @ 12:42 on June 20, 2018  

Good news but as you say not out of the woods. So many surgeries. Pray she keeps up her strenght. Keep a eye on her labs. When she goes to rehab keep a close eye on her and make sure any bandages stay covered and changed everyday till so open areas for bugs. There’s superbugs all over coming in since it’s everywhere now. Diet nutrition including protein zinc vita C for wound healing after. If your healthy it won’t bother you but if your compromised as in illness or wounds it can.

OBAMACARE CHRONICLES #117

Posted by treefrog @ 12:18 on June 20, 2018  

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Portugeezer

Posted by Samb @ 12:06 on June 20, 2018  

Yes, imho, you are once again very spot on. Feel free to buy and sell (legally) whatever you so choose. Don’t let anyone try to pull a guilt… shame doubt upon you. We can not compete with  waves of fiat manipulating the market. I believe that we can see the technical results of the manipulators past actions and so try to make sense of the present reality.

Hi Samb

Posted by Portugeezer @ 11:49 on June 20, 2018  

I closely watch all your posts and look forward to them.

One point you missed is that they don’t need  to use the ETF’s to control the price of Gold.They can print money at will and manipulate the price any way that they want to.

The ETFs are just a way for the monkeys to make money; they know the SEC turns a blind eye to naked shorting, but to have a legal means is better for them in the long run.  The price changes occur when the market is closed in most cases and Billions of $ worth of “something” are dumped.  Futures?  How? In what market? Who is on the other side of the deal? Are they selling to themselves?  So many unanswered questions.

With Russia, China and Turkey scraping up all the Gold they can, what difference would the couple of ounces that we might buy have on the price in the world market?  The few Goldbugs and real-money advocates (that’s us) hardly feature in the grand scale.

Ask yourself a simple, silly question: who benefits from higher Gold prices?

Not the Russians, Chinese or Turks; they want to buy more at these low prices.

Not the US Government; they have a 6,000 tonne short on Gold.

So, it is left to the manipulators to set the price where they want to – until they can’t.  It’s waiting for that moment in time that is key, and being in a position to benefit. You might be able to get in at some point higher up the ladder, but what if it happens overnight, one Friday.  Gold revalued to 3k$.

Of course, an EMP might have a similar effect and give the bankers the chance to default.  Like 911 to the government, that would be a Pearl Harbour for the banks.

Look who controls the banking side of the ETFs.  If there is an emergency, they will freeze all accounts and take any underlying metals (less than 10% of the ETF value) and ETF holders will be left with paper and MIGHT be paid out at the value of the metal prior to the emergency.  Citi will be laughing all the way to the….. vault.

We can only sit tight, be right and look for our own way of leveraging what little we have left.

Rich

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