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I don’t know about the Trump food thing

Posted by eeos @ 20:13 on November 18, 2019  

But Alex Jones seems more like a shill every day. I watched him in video taped court depositions within the last 6 months or so, and I’m not sure he’s dealing with a full deck. He says, “I don’t know and I can’t recall” more the Bill and Hillary do under oath. I used to like him and knew he was out there. Now I think he’s just doing things for ratings.

Hmm … “Food Tester for Trump” I hope it pays a lot!

Posted by ipso facto @ 17:03 on November 18, 2019  

EXCLUSIVE – President Trump makes unscheduled stop at military hospital to undergo battery of tests for possible deliberate poisoning of food with “time delayed” chemical agent; food tester gravely ill – White House connected source

https://www.naturalnews.com/2019-11-18-president-trump-unscheduled-stop-military-hospital-tests-chemical-food-poisoning.html

Here is the story of the tunnel tragedy (in 1905)

Posted by Alex Valdor @ 16:46 on November 18, 2019  

Train Breaks In Tunnel.
A dispatch received from Port Huron last night told of the accident, as follows:
A coal train broke in two while passing through the tunnel and three of the train crew were suffocated while part of the train lay stalled in the tunnel; the engineer lost his life when he returned and endeavored to push the stalled cars back to safety, and two other rescuers perished in vain attempts to penetrate the gascous[sic] atmosphere of the great tube.
The dead are: A. S. BEGG, Port Huron, superintendent of terminals; Engineer JOHN COLEMAN, Port Huron; Conductor J. B. SIMPSON; Conductor D. T. TINSLEY; Brakeman THOMAS McGRATH; Brakeman D. A. GILLIS, all four of Sarnia.
The train, which entered from the American end of the tunnel, was made up of seventeen coal cars. When it broke, Engineer COLEMAN realized that the accident had happened, and with the three cars that were still attached to the engine, steamed out of the tunnel into the Sarnia yards. He hastily detached his engine and went back into the tube for the stalled cars. When his engine reached them he attempted to push them back through the tunnel and out of the American portal. The grade proved too steep, however, and the engine and cars rolled back into the gas-laden tunnel. The engineer was suffocated at his post in the engine cab. His fireman, FRED FORESTER with great presence of mind, jumped into the partly filled water tank of the engine, where there was enough air to preserve his life, although he is in a serious condition to-night.
When news of the broken train reached the American side of the tunnel, Superintendent BEGG, accompanied by two other employes, started in on foot, hoping that the train was near enough to the entrance so that they might rescue and carry out some of the crew. They had gone but a short distance when the coal gas became stifling and BEGG succumbed. The other two rescuers succeeded in crawling to the portal of the tunnel on their hands and knees.
Meanwhile preparations were being made at the Sarnia end of the tunnel to rescue the imprisoned train crew. An engine with a party of rescuers entered the tube and had proceeded but a short distance when they found JOHN HALEY, a track walker, lying unconscious on the track. He as taken out and again the engine plunged into the gaseous atmosphere. The rescuers were overcome, however, by the gas before the train was reached, and Brakeman McGRATH died. Switchman BLAKE, who was a member of the party, after a time made another attempt to penetrate the gas, and by this time succeeded in making the stalled engine, coupled it to the cars and ran the train out into the daylight. SIMPSON, TINSLEY and GILLIS were found dead in the caboose. Fireman FORESTER was in the water tank of the engine nearly two hours before he was rescued and his escape is little short of miraculous.

Alex

Posted by goldielocks @ 16:24 on November 18, 2019  

I guess if you travel unconventionally on a train best to bring a gas mask or some sort of portable oxygen. Sheesh
Wonder what would happen although less likely in a storm if lightening or something electrical hit those cars? Probably not good either.

DJIA just closed North of 28,000

Posted by eeos @ 16:01 on November 18, 2019  

28,040

We day camp near the east portal of the Moffat along the stream

Posted by eeos @ 15:44 on November 18, 2019  

and the fan noise is pretty noticeable. It’s large.

Maya & Bob

Posted by Alex Valdor @ 15:01 on November 18, 2019  

When I was pre-school , we lived next to the rail tunnel which passed under the St. Clair River , built over a century ago . The story was told that a train was delayed while in the tunnel and had to build up steam again to complete the passage , asphyxiating some aboard .
When we lived there , all trains stopped at the closest stations on either side , and electric locomotives were used to move the freight or passenger trains across , including the steam locomotives , as I recall . This was the main international line between Montreal/Toronto ( and Chicago , I believe ) . The Pere Marquette RR spur took trains to Detroit on the US side . We had a foundry in town which cast engine blocks for Ford – probably on both sides of the border .

Bob @ 0:26 – tunnel gas

Posted by Maya @ 14:01 on November 18, 2019  

Wow… I didn’t know the railroads would allow extra riders in the locos.  I heard US railroads would sometime ‘deadhead’ crews in the rear locos if they needed to get back to home base from some remote locations.

Some long tunnels have extreme ventilation systems like the Moffatt tunnel above Denver on the continental divide.  There are roll-down barndoors  and huge ventilator fans at each end of the tunnel that perform mandatory ventilation after each train passes.  The next following train must wait in the siding until the tunnel clears before being allowed through.

Imagine the old days of steam locomotives going through these long tunnels.  Back when a caboose was mandatory, the poor guy at the end of the train had to endure a bit of tunnel gas also, although the long train ahead helped clear the smoke a bit.

treefrog

Posted by ipso facto @ 13:26 on November 18, 2019  

“bottom fishing opportunity?”

Could be. I’m not real familiar with Victoria.

Cheers

Bullion Banks re Gold, Unallocated Positions rarely result in Physical Delivery – Demand is Diverted to Paper

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 13:02 on November 18, 2019  

Bullion Banking Mechanics. Very Long Article

parts

The term bullion bank can be applied to banks which are involved in some or all of the following activities in the precious metals markets: trading, clearing, vaulting, physical metal distribution, risk management, intermediating between metal lenders and borrowers, mine finance and hedging, financing fabricators, providing consignment stocks, generating precious metals market research. This list is not exhaustive.

While some of the above financial market activities sound innocuous and would be expected to be normal activities of any merchant bank / investment bank involved in the financial and commodities markets, the unique structure of the modern-day global wholesale bullion markets as well as the unique monetary characteristic of gold and silver mean that it’s important to appreciate how bullion banks carry out these activities.

Since unallocated account transactions in the London bullion market are rarely used for physical delivery of gold, the trading of such paper gold diverts demand into paper gold that would otherwise have been channelled into real physical demand. Therefore, the price of physical gold is not reflecting the demand that it would have reflected if paper gold alternatives did not exist.

https://www.bullionstar.com/gold-university/bullion-banking-mechanics#heading-19

Five banks open up trillion-dollar gold club?

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 12:34 on November 18, 2019  

From March ’18

The reform is part of a broad overhaul of institutions that underpin the world’s largest bullion trading center to make them more transparent after accusations of price manipulation by banks and traders and pressure from regulators.

Tighter regulation since the financial crisis a decade ago and allegations that several bullion banks manipulated gold and silver prices have forced London’s gold market to open up to scrutiny and modernise its key infrastruc

Gold, silver, platinum and palladium price benchmarks set in the city and used by buyers and sellers worldwide have been taken out of the hands of banks to be run as electronic auctions by exchange operators.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/08/five-banks-open-up-trillion-dollar-gold-club.html

ipso

Posted by treefrog @ 11:43 on November 18, 2019  

thanx for the heads up about victoria.  consolidation may cause a sizeable dip.  bottom fishing opportunity?  it won’t cost anything to be watching vitff closely when trading re-opens wednesday.

Bob

Posted by goldielocks @ 11:39 on November 18, 2019  

Sounds like you were successful and in the know train hopper except for that one unforeseen event that was probably scary.
Luckily you didn’t stop breathing.
Back in the 60 s as a young teen I thought about doing that to visit relatives going between Wisc in Calif instead of them having to pay for travel by plane so I could visit more often. Of course I would if had to plan it without either parents permission.
They while planning one at about 14 I guess God sent me a message don’t do it.
I usually didn’t read newspapers yet them but for some reason I picked one up because I saw a train story on it.
Three teens decided to hop a train but unbeknownst to them the doors automatically closed on them and stayed closed for three days. They had no food or more importantly no water. They said something about trying to catch water droplets at times. They were scared and dehydrated. Another day they may have died.
I was reminded about that when you mentioned that they left water inside the units.
Either they didn’t there or it was the story that started the checking the units and leaving water. Lol

Share Consolidation … small players nightmare … 15 to 1 … yikes

Posted by ipso facto @ 10:27 on November 18, 2019  

Victoria Gold: Share Consolidation and Change in Year End

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/victoria-gold-share-consolidation-change-110000429.html

Bob @ 0:26

Posted by ipso facto @ 10:17 on November 18, 2019  

Thank God for the Angel riding on our shoulders protecting us from our younger year’s craziness!

If History Repeats, Gold is Headed to $8,000

Posted by ipso facto @ 10:14 on November 18, 2019  

If History Repeats, Gold is Headed to $8,000

Maddog @ 9:58

Posted by Captain Hook @ 10:14 on November 18, 2019  

Yes you are right. But with all the money printing the effect on the markets is not present yet. All the straws will eventually break the camel’s back, but not yet. The markets don’t lie when the bankers are having their way (see my comments last week on the SPX/CRB Ratio). Christmas bonus season is coming and they will not let anything interrupt that (even with all the money printing manifesting this as a profound paradox).

That is to say with all the money printing, if it was not hoarded by the bankers and their buddies (think bonuses, corporate buy backs, etc.), commodities would be soaring — not the other way around.

I wouldn’t be surprised to see stocks back up by day’s end.

Cheers

CaptainHook

Posted by Maddog @ 9:58 on November 18, 2019  

Barring a five gamma event

u want a Gamma event, how about the collapse of Hong Kong…..it is happening as we watch. One of the Worlds major financial centres is falling apart. Tourism is over, the real estate mkt is overlooking a precipice, retail is in collapse and the banks are on a knife edge.

As far as the UK MSM is concerned it ain’t happening, which is always a giveaway, when “they” are crapping themselves.

Buygold @ 8:40

Posted by Captain Hook @ 9:18 on November 18, 2019  

Yes this will only delay things.

Barring a five gamma event, PM’s are not going anywhere substantially until these futures gambling idiots are purged from the market — if you can call it that in knowing the bankers will be back to piss on gold the next time it goes above $1500 again.

Hook

 

On again, off again – Captain we got a minor bump from the negative trade news – go figure

Posted by Buygold @ 8:40 on November 18, 2019  

Stocks, Yuan, Bond Yields Tumble On “Pessimistic” Reports From China On Trade Deal

“Mood in Beijing about trade deal is pessimistic, government source tells me.”

Blowoff. tops–The financial media denied the Q4 1999 – Q1 2000 blowoff top was a blowoff top, and it repeated its denial of a blowoff top in housing in 2006-2007.

Posted by Richard640 @ 8:33 on November 18, 2019  
Calling QE not-QE doesn’t make it different than QE, but it does communicate the Fed’s panicky desire to mask its stupendous injection of financial cocaine into the financial system. The Fed’s level of panic is noteworthy, as is the absurd transparency of its laughable attempt to conceal its panic.
In the same fashion, the financial media is loudly declaring the current blowoff top in stocks is not a blowoff top. The delicious irony here is these denials are reliable markers of blowoff tops: the louder the denials, the greater the odds that this is in fact the blowoff top that many pundits have been expecting for some time, but always in the future.
Garsh darn it, maybe the future has arrived. The financial media denied the Q4 1999 – Q1 2000 blowoff top was a blowoff top, and it repeated its denial of a blowoff top in housing in 2006-2007. The pundits of 1929 also deThe financial menied the Q3 blowoff top in stocks was a blowoff top.
If you want a reliable signal that the blowoff top has peaked, listen to the screechy adamance of the deniers. The list of reasons why blowoff tops can’t be blowoff tops is practically endless: sentiment isn’t bullish enough, there’s a Wall of Worry for stocks to climb (overlooking the inconvenient reality that there is always a Wall of Worry), the consumer is still looking good, corporate earnings will rebound, the soft patch is behind us, the Internet will grow for decades to come, they’re not making any more land, capital flows favor higher asset prices, we owe it to ourselves (paging Paul Krugman–the Keynesian Cargo Cult is about to dance the humba-humba around the campfire and you’re needed…), debt doesn’t matter (it never matters until it does), price-earning ratios have plenty of room to move higher, and everyone’s favorite, don’t fight the all-powerful Fed (and we command you not to look behind the curtain while we worship false gods and wave dead chickens).
But nonetheless, blowoff tops in asset bubbles remain a feature of asset overvaluation, which by the way has once again reached historic extremes (GDP to equity valuation, etc.)
This introduces the other reliable indicator of blowoff tops: this time it’s different. It’s always different at blowoff tops, but not in the way that proponents of eternally rising asset valuations imagine.
Even geniuses misread blowoff tops. Popular culture has it that Isaac Newton made money in the South Sea Company bubble, sold for a handsome profit and then re-entered at a much higher price, losing a fortune when the blowoff top collapsed. Some historians have argued that this account is not accurate, but new research verifies that Newton did miscalculate and lose a fortune: Newton’s financial misadventures in the South Sea Bubble:
 

http://charleshughsmith.blogspot.com

Buygold @ 7:38

Posted by Captain Hook @ 8:05 on November 18, 2019  

Ya with ETF options expired Friday, and the new options cycle having little effect on trade until we flip into the next month, the futures market will have a greater influence on trade.

So with all the gambling idiots long PM futures right now, you could indeed see quite a fall in a very short period of time, especially if the shares fall hard too (they will because the ETF put buyers were supporting them.)

Hope you heeded my warnings last week.

Hook

Waterfall Monday

Posted by Buygold @ 7:38 on November 18, 2019  

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Maya – The Canadian & Kicking Horse Pass

Posted by Bob @ 0:26 on November 18, 2019  

In the mid ’60’s when traveling across Canada I would take the railway, not by passenger car but by ‘riding the units’. i.e., the locomotives. This was done by boarding and occupying one of the rearmost units on rail-yard departure, a practice tolerated by CNR employees. (The Fireman would always check each unit and they would often offer water or sandwiches. Water jugs were also sometimes situated in some units, which was convenient).

One winter trip found me in Revelstoke, B.C., tossed off a train by the engineer when he discovered in one of his units awaiting departure from the station. I had been using the CNR exclusively prior to this and this was the first CPR track I had ridden, hitching the original ride from Calgary headed west. I later learned that the CPR did not tolerate unit riders.

I waited several hours for another train to depart and caught and occupied the last unit of a seven-unit train. High multiple unit trains were common in the Rockies then since they were only rated approximately 1500 HP, where modern engines can be rated 4000 HP or more.

The train rose toward Kicking Horse Pass (just as Maya’s photos depict). Kicking Horse Pass crosses the Continental Divide and is the highest point on the CPR railway: unbeknownst to me was what lay ahead. Spiral tunnels had been constructed on the rail-line that permitted a rise in elevation over a longer distance, thus reducing the grade through the pass. When we entered the first tunnel I immediately was struck by diesel engine exhaust from the leading six units, and though I don’t remember it, I soon succumbed to the contaminated atmosphere and passed out.

I regained consciousness some time late whilst crossing the Kicking Horse River, several miles from the tunnel egress and at the end of the Pass descent stage. Disoriented upon resuming consciousness, I thought I was crossing the North Thompson River near Kamloops, hours away from Kicking Horse Pass! It was only later when traveling through a town that I realized where I was. I also recall having a splitting headache, my first episode in breathing Carbon Monoxide. (Breathing Carbon Dioxide will give one the same headache: don’t ask).

Thanks for all the rail photos Maya: I never fail to enjoy them.

 

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