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Maddog

Posted by Captain Hook @ 17:12 on October 30, 2014  

I see your point. But my point is they would not be able to push PM stocks down  if the P/C ratios were reversed, which will hopefully come one day once the specs are exhausted. BTW the big culprits are the hedge funds, so a reversal in betting practices could come suddenly as they continue to lose investors, or a deflation scare hits.

Mr. eeos. You are confused.

 

 

Captain Hook @ 12:47 on October 30, 2014

Posted by ment17 @ 17:11 on October 30, 2014  

so the stock buyers short and buy calls that distort the market these two off setting moves cause the market to go down .. not the obvious selling of mass of futures at certain market times that drive the market many points down at very slow times ..

this is not ordinary market action has nothing to do with the individual stock traders as they are so small compared to the high amounts of paper shorts that come at the point when no one is looking driving the price down and then any up move is met with additional short. bingo

question how does a market short and long even factor into this obvious raid on the gold complex ment

Bottoms

Posted by winedoc @ 17:08 on October 30, 2014  

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There may have been some capitulation in the shares

Mighty Goldcorp down 12%

I don’t think we see a bullion bottom until its pulled from the shelves as it was in 2009 (esp silver at 9 bucks)

Kitco still has plenty

Bastards

Winedoc

Equis 12:13 Gold Silver Ratio: Happy Hour ……. Blood on the Tracks …….. “Tangled up in Blue” …….. “There was Music in the Cafe’s at Night and Revolution in the Air”

Posted by winedoc @ 16:45 on October 30, 2014  

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I bought ….. silver  today …….. and

……. all the way down 🙂

I’m 51  and I ain’t selling any of it.

Only piss off is Scotiamacatta’s premiums are so high, compared to Kitco

Closest Coin Shop is Halifax

I can’t bother with bank wires and all that on small dollar cost average purchases, so I eat the premium

Yum

Best Regards

Winedoc

 

 

Just another day in the

Posted by commish @ 16:41 on October 30, 2014  

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Captain Hook

Posted by Maddog @ 16:38 on October 30, 2014  

Ok so the P/C ratio on GDX is 1:2….does that explain the HUI down 8 weeks running, now in it’s 9th and accelerating ….I don’t think so. You’d want a P/C ratio of 0.25 or better min.

9 weeks down in any mkt is beyond extreme, to be happening after such a large fall already is, again beyond extreme. These are not real mkts.

What about the magic 1 % cap on Gold…what has the P/C ratio got to do with that, damn all. The 1 % cap is there no matter what the P/C ratio is, day in day out. Has any mkt been capped at 1 %/day ever, never…again not real mkts.

This isn’t sour grapes it’s facing reality, normal analysis no longer works.

Cheers

 

 

Silverngold

Posted by eeos @ 16:27 on October 30, 2014  

Better yet the BLM should just turn it into Designated Wilderness Area = The Land of NO Uses. Perfect

Captain

Posted by eeos @ 16:21 on October 30, 2014  

Were you and Gold Runner doing something together a while back or do I have you confused?

Round 2;BLM vs Bundy Ranch

Posted by silverngold @ 16:20 on October 30, 2014  

 

“Retaliation”: Feds Launch New Land Grab Targeting Bundy Family

Battle of Bunkerville 2: BLM to declare 1.8 million acres environmental protection zone
"Retaliation": Feds Launch New Land Grab Targeting Bundy Family

by PAUL JOSEPH WATSON | OCTOBER 29, 2014


A federal land grab being imposed under the guise of environmental protection in Southern Nevada has been labeled an act of “deliberate retaliation” by Cliven Bundy, the rancher who was at the center of a standoff between BLM agents and armed militia groups earlier this year.

On Sunday, the Bundy family posted a Facebook entry which asserted that, “the federal government is mounting retaliations against the Bundy family and the Southern Nevada people,” after it was announced that the feds intended to designate around 1.8 million acres of land around their Gold Butte range as critical to the environment.

The initial dispute between Bundy and the feds, which culminated in an armed standoffbetween BLM agents and Bundy supporters back in April, centered around more than $1 million in grazing fees which authorities claimed Bundy owed stretching back two decades.

The Bundy family asserts that the new draft Resource Management Plan made public by the Bureau of Land Management would place up to 3 million acres of land off limits to recreational use, agriculture or ranching.

“They’re trying to surround us by controlling all the land. People should know they’re doing this without the knowledge of the people who use it,” Carol Bundy told the Las Vegas Review-Journal.

Days after the standoff came to a head earlier this year, after which the feds were forced to release nearly 400 cattle belonging to Bundy, Nevada Senator Harry Reid labeled Bundy supporters “domestic terrorists” and indicated that the fight was not over.

“From near the beginning of history, tyrannical men have sought to oppress through the control of land and resources, “Control the land and resources, and you have the power to control the people”. There is a direct correlation to land and resources with power and wealth. All major powers in world history have gained their power & wealth by conquering the land and controlling the resources,” states the Bundy Facebook post, adding that Areas of Critical Environmental Concern (ACECs) “have been a tool used by the federal government to gain further control of large masses of western lands and the resources.”

The BLM’s latest move to seize huge tracts of land surrounding Bundy’s property under the justification of environmental protection suggests that we could witness part two of the ‘Battle of Bunkerville’ sometime over the next few months.

The comment period for the BLM’s new proposal ends on January 7th after a series of public meetings set to begin on Monday.

Watch footage of April’s armed standoff between Bundy supporters and federal authorities below.

Facebook @ https://www.facebook.com/paul.j.watson.71
FOLLOW Paul Joseph Watson @ https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet

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Paul Joseph Watson is the editor at large of Infowars.com and Prison Planet.com.

 

Maddog

Posted by Captain Hook @ 16:18 on October 30, 2014  

The ALL IMPORTANT open interest put / call ratio on the GDX (the biggest and most influencial PM stock ETF) is .5; and, the open interest P/C ratio on both the SPX and SPY are ~ 190, or two puts for every call, meaning speculators / hedgers are bearish on stocks. And of course at .5 on GDX, meaning 2 calls exist for every put, which is bearish from a sentiment perspective. With the computers programmed to sell markets in which P/C ratios reflect optimism, and buy those with the opposite, again, is it really any wonder stocks go up and PMs down?

Gold bugs are having a hard time dealing with the fact they are being dupped because they think themselves smart investors, while ignoring the very market mechanism is rigged (think algos), and that they are not as smart as they think themselves.

Not the first time pride and stubborn attitudes have done this, however PM specs are perhaps the most dramatic example ever.

Good investing is possible in physical gold, silver, and quality shares at the lower prices such attitudes guarantee.

Cheers

The cabal

Posted by eeos @ 16:09 on October 30, 2014  

needs to know if they can smash 1180 Gold, don’t think it won’t be retested. The pro’s have $12.XX Silver in mind.

I knew Keith N from First Majestic was gunna have a hit piece done on FM by TPTB…

Posted by macroman3 @ 16:01 on October 30, 2014  

So far just your typical 10% drubbing, not unlike most other PM companies

Macroman3-En attendant Godot–lol–I saw that play in Paris in 1966…

Posted by Richard640 @ 15:58 on October 30, 2014  

JNUG waving bye-bye to the $5 level…

Posted by Richard640 @ 15:55 on October 30, 2014  

Yes R640, still waiting on Godot

Posted by macroman3 @ 15:50 on October 30, 2014  

I think by Tuesday when the margin calls are flushed, someone is making their year on the rebound.

Posted by macroman3 @ 15:47 on October 30, 2014  

3300 (edit) ASK lots on Kindog, never seen anything that high before.

Nothing but Vultures at this point.

The gold rocket, eh? And the Messiah will come…just keep believing…

Posted by Richard640 @ 15:46 on October 30, 2014  

This is getting tiresome…but just on the rsi/oversold basis, I’ll keep taking stabs-this little 3 minute trade just cost me $330…

JNUG – 03:26:04
Sold 3000s @ $5.13 – Total: $15,382.65

JNUG – 03:23:10
Bought 3000s @ $5.24 – Total: $15,727.00

atta boy eeos. Your fire analogy is probably correct but something has to built out of the ashes.

Posted by macroman3 @ 15:42 on October 30, 2014  

Until then, I’m going long tissues.

The reason I think the PM’s are dead

Posted by eeos @ 15:40 on October 30, 2014  

is that ANY rally, no matter what its size, will be sold and shorted by the pros and market makers. It’s part of the trading rule book.

If we’re waiting for the huge breakout into a financial economic collapse, well that shite won’t happen either. It won’t be allowed to. The fire will burn the building down, but we’ll be trapped inside.

I’m not selling here macro, completely pointless right now.

I have a very very hard time believing we’re going to have an economic paradigm shift in my children’s life time. No one cares in the younger generations and most are pacifists. I’d love to be proven wrong

eeos, get out now so the rest of us can take the rocket ship up.

Posted by macroman3 @ 15:34 on October 30, 2014  

You need a little like father like son pep talk…

Well I went to throw another log on the fire and I heard a faint moaning coming from behind the woodshed

Posted by macroman3 @ 15:32 on October 30, 2014  

He said his name was Chuck Jeannes…

Wow G, how much is 13% of your market cap?

Announcement

Posted by eeos @ 15:28 on October 30, 2014  

The PM’s are dead for good, or at least for many years to come. Just think of the lines of sorry fools that still want out. Everyone that participates in the stock market casino hates Gold and Silver. They’ll side with the Fed so they can continue their lifestyles. If I had a bulldozer, I’d dig up JP Moron and burn his corpse for good measure…but everyone already knows digging all the way to hell is an insurmountable task

eeos

Posted by Maddog @ 15:24 on October 30, 2014  

Re Greenspan

 

He’s getting on now and probably getting very nervous that the good Lord is a Bug, so is maybe trying to buy some insurance for when he knocks on the pearly gates and gives his name over……He doesn’t want to hear a booming voice shout out WHO !!!!!!!!!!!!  I’ve been waiting for that  SOB….. he’s only going to one place and for eternity.

Alan Greenspam comments concern me

Posted by eeos @ 15:12 on October 30, 2014  

This guy is a douche bag liar.

Captain Hook

Posted by Maddog @ 15:06 on October 30, 2014  

All I can say is I dunno which mkt yr watching, but it sure ain’t the PM’s and that the oceans of outright rigging GATA have documented in the PM’s doesn’t happen.

 

Lets stand back a little here and ignore the simple rigging and look at the whole mkt picture. As of now you in the US have a gu’mint run by imbeciles, we in Europe have the EU, who can give yr imbeciles a run any day, as can our local imbeciles in the UK.

Yet yr stock mkt is at all time Hi’s, which says one of two things, either life is grand and yr economy is booming, or inflation is rampant and if it was the 2nd, then interest rates would be well bid, ie 7 to 10 % on the 30 yr, PM;s would be well bid , as would oil. But that ain’t the case, so it must be the 1st……..were all booming…..yet all anecdotal information is that the economies are flat at best, we’ll ignore the bent gu’mint numbers, for the trash they are. Also if we are all booming why aren’t interest rates hard, especially as we all carry record amounts of debt and not a shred of evidence that the debt accumulation will slow down, plus why isn’t oil bid.

So despite the world class imbeciles running us, who have ruined or wrecked everything they touch, the mkts sayour economies are the picture of perfect health. It is just too much to believe that the current bunch of uber cretins, can have created financial nirvana, something that has eluded every gu’mint in history.  Which forces me to conclude that the major mkts are all false.

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