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The shares shud be up 3 or 4 times the metal…..in Silver they are up less !!!!

Algo’s have no fear !!!!!!

Ps Trader Dan better stay away from high bridges and tall buildings !!!!

[Heck, gold’s little bounce is just some worry over the sovereign downgrade of Japan–O! Really! Since when has gold been responding to the degradation of fiat/bonds these past many years–through a downgrade or through QE? His attitude and bias–like a zillion other gold bears–is what will keep the majority out of the once in a lifetime bull run in PMs]
Monday, December 1, 2014

Moody’s Cuts Japan’s Credit Rating

Moody’s Investors Service, a credit ratings firm, cut the credit rating of Japan one notch this morning to A1, down from Aa3.
This has further spooked gold bears and we are seeing a rash of short covering in the gold market as a result.
Let’s see how long the impact from the Moody’s decision will last and whether or not it can attract any concentrated NEW buying.

got home and was shocked to see JNUG at the same price as when I left even though gold was 8 bucks higher–

That said–I think we are witnesses to history and this is an historic turn–what I LOVE is that silver is confirming

unless you are charting something in the precious metals.  unfortunately chart are worthless in our sector don’t even bother looking at them. Post all of them you want,  but just remember you can’t chart manipulation. Sorry I’m not buying it. I’m sure they’ll work again someday, when the manipulators fail, but until then I’m afraid we’re along for their wild ride

For me it is clear as the nose on my face. If you can’t see it now you never will, so just walk on by. The only explanation I will give is that I cannot predict the future price, except that when the price hits the upper diagonal gray dashed line that will be the next major top. All The Best…….Silverngold

Why I seldom trade  Silver... Futures have traveled $17,500 per contract today. Um Pete sidesteps who’s really behind moves like this. He just acts like Silver is some red headed wild child step sister. What a fool

but we need to remember the cabal’s efforts. The love to let the futures run and the PM stocks are beat down (or the inverse). This is a neat little algo that’s been running for a year now. It’s completely ridiculous rubbish. The machines control the market

Yep not a peep on bubblevision about the gold jump. Gotta keep out the serfs until the lords load up doncha know.

No sign at all of any shortcovering, just the reverse, the Algos are piling on more shorts.

I don’t know if the link changes but important to read so here it is.

Gold – One More Pop or Collapse?

I know a heads up. If people didn’t believe it before they should now. Instead of bending to their demands once they become a guest into another country there should be laws they understand right away. That they respect the constitution of that country including their religions. If they do not they are subject to deportation including any threats to their citizens based on their prejudice.  If they do not choose to uphold the constitution they can choose not to come here. In fact make them sign a paper. Also if they come here they can have no financial assistance having children. That their Shaira laws do not exist here, that they are subject to the laws of that country as well as it’s consequences for breaking them including if becoming a citizen subject to treason.  Any established Christians should be at higer priority due to being in immediate danger. The rest should be accepted by Muslim countries IMO

I’m just pizzed they didn’t dump on us during hours we could buy the dip without playing their damn futures games. Not that I’d ever watch CNBC pizzheads but I hear they haven’t bothered to mention Gold’s recovery today, but over in Europe they we’re broadcasting gold’s demise with complete delight. Huge losers…CNBC and GE are the US Govt in drag with GS and JPM sweeping up the crumbs of destruction

We “is” witnesses to history-the good news wolf IS at the door this time–what’s wrong wif yo? Halleleujah c’mon get happy! Feets, do yo stuff!

I want to see China and Russia win the currency war. I’m rooting for the “enemy” and our “opponents”. I blame it on our banks and politicians, zero accountability.

[EVERYBODY reads zero hedge-this is also the ultimate refutation to those that claim no manipulation]

What Happened To The Gold Correlation?

Submitted by Tyler Durden on 12/01/2014 09:37 -0500

Submitted by Jim Quinn via The Burning Platform blog,

The correlation between gold and the national debt was clear for 13 years. It made perfect sense in a free market. You can’t print more gold. It is a relatively scarce metal that has represented wealth for centuries. Fiat currency can be printed at will by corrupt bankers and politicians. Every paper currency ever created eventually reached its intrinsic value of ZERO, as human beings always take the easy way in attempting to create wealth.

So what happened in 2013? The national debt has gone from $16.5 trillion to $18 trillion, but the price of gold has dropped from $1,750 to $1,200. Is gold no longer a store of value? Is creating $2.5 billion per day in new debt now the path to long term prosperity and wealth accumulation? If gold is no longer insurance against the corrupt machinations of bankers and politicians, then why are China and Russia accumulating as much physical gold as they can get their hands on?

There seems to be only one logical explanation for the abrupt break in the correlation between gold and the national debt. The free market has been manipulated to artificially suppress the price of gold. A rising gold price reveals the inflationary monetary policies of the Fed and the outrageous spending of politicians. The Fed and their owners on Wall Street, with the approval of their captured political hacks in D.C., are using the paper markets, derivatives, and lack of market transparency to keep the price of gold from rising.

The bankers are winning for now. Can they suppress the price of gold forever? Can they prop up the stock market forever? Does history provide even one example of a fiat currency that did not ultimately reach its true intrinsic value?

Are you going to bet on Grandma Yellen or gold?

It’s COMPLETE BULLSHIT these moves can take place in the first place, no manipulation tho….sheesh

and this is the launch–right now-today –not in 2015 or 2016- or 2020–get over the negative conditioning–buy the dips–forget selling the rallies

[heck….I dunno….u all know I’m a drama queen…]

Carousel Graduation Scene=You’ll never walk alone

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Silver over $16

(Reuters) – The United States and Turkey are closing in on a deal that will allow the U.S. military and allied forces to use Turkish air bases in their campaign against Islamic State militants in Syria, the Wall Street Journal reported on Monday.

The newspaper, citing U.S. and Turkish officials, said the agreement could include a safe zone along a portion of the Syrian border to protect refugees and certain opposition forces that would also “be off-limits” to aircraft from Syrian President Bashar al-Assad’s government.

more http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/12/01/us-mideast-crisis-turkey-usa-idUSKCN0JF2FC20141201

What would Orphan Annie say? 🙂

Saudis risk playing with fire in shale-price showdown as crude crashes

Saudi Arabia and the core Opec states are taking an immense political gamble by letting crude oil prices crash to $66 a barrel, if their aim is to shake out the weakest shale producers in the US. A deep slump in prices might equally heighten geostrategic turmoil across the broader Middle East and boomerang against the Gulf’s petro-sheikhdoms before it inflicts a knock-out blow on US rivals.

more http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/oilprices/11263851/Saudis-risk-playing-with-fire-in-shale-price-showdown-as-crude-crashes.html

1.9 mill shares of jnug traded in pre-mkt-!!

http://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/jnug/premarket

Here is a perspective by Dr. Peter Hammond. Dr. Hammond ’ s doctorate is in Theology. He was born in Capetown in 1960, grew up in Rhodesia and converted to Christianity in 1977.

Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond’s book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat:

Islam is not a religion, nor is it a cult. In its fullest form, it is a complete, total, 100% system of life.

Islam has religious, legal, political, economic, social, and military components. The religious component is a beard for all of the other components.

Islamization begins when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their religious privileges.

When politically correct, tolerant, and culturally diverse societies agree to Muslim demands for their religious privileges, some of the other components tend to creep in as well..

Here’s how it works:

As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens. This is the case in:
United States — Muslim 0..6%
Australia — Muslim 1.5%
Canada — Muslim 1.9%
China — Muslim 1.8%
Italy — Muslim 1.5%
Norway — Muslim 1.8%

At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs.
This is happening in:
Denmark — Muslim 2%
Germany — Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7%
Spain — Muslim 4%
Thailand — Muslim 4.6%

>From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population.

For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims.

They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply.

This is occurring in:
France — Muslim 8%
Philippines — 5%
Sweden — Muslim 5%
Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago — Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions.

In Paris , we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam, and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam , with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam.

Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections, in:
Guyana — Muslim 10%
India — Muslim 13.4%
Israel — Muslim 16%
Kenya — Muslim 10%
Russia — Muslim 15%

After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:
Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8%

At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:
Bosnia — Muslim 40%
Chad — Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%

>From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in:
Albania — Muslim 70%
Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%
Qatar — Muslim 77.5%
Sudan — Muslim 70%

After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and in some ways is on-going in:
Bangladesh — Muslim 83%
Egypt — Muslim 90%
Gaza — Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%
Iran — Muslim 98%
Iraq — Muslim 97%
Jordan — Muslim 92%
Morocco — Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan — Muslim 97%
Palestine — Muslim 99%
Syria — Muslim 90%
Tajikistan — Muslim 90%
Turkey — Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace.. Here there’s supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word, such as in:
Afghanistan — Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%
Somalia — Muslim 100%
Yemen — Muslim 100%

Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.

‘Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; the tribe against the world, and all of us against the infidel. — Leon Uris, ‘The Haj’

It is important to understand that in some countries, with well under 100% Muslim populations, such as France, the minority Muslim populations live in ghettos, within which they are 100% Muslim, and within which they live by Sharia Law.

The national police do not even enter these ghettos. There are no national courts, nor schools, nor non-Muslim religious facilities. In such situations, Muslims do not integrate in to the community at large. The children attend madrasses. They learn only the Koran. To even associate with an infidel is a crime punishable with death.

Therefore, in some areas of certain nations, Muslim Imams and extremists exercise more power than the national average would indicate.

Today’s 1.5 billion Muslims make up 22% of the world’s population.

But their birth rates dwarf the birth rates of Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, and all other believers.

Muslims will exceed 50% of the world’s population by the end of this century.

Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond’s book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat

Coeur Mining in talks to acquire Paramount Gold

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/coeur-mining-talks-acquire-paramount-005303800.html

Supreme Court of Canada Dismisses Appeal Application by Hector Davila Santos

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/supreme-court-canada-dismisses-appeal-120000095.html

Aurcana Reports 3rd Quarter Financial Results

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/aurcana-reports-3rd-quarter-financial-140000105.html