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This guy is hard to listen to but I hope you will make the effort. He is exposing what is causing this autism explosion around the world and it has to do with an ingredient intentionally put into vaccines.  This is why these doctors have been “offed” recently. They have all been brought into Dr Bradstreets confidence, recently visited by the FDA, and then mysteriously died or disappeared.Most all autism can be reversed and that is what the pharmaceutical companies and FDA do not want to become public knowledge. Hope you’ll share this far and wide.

https://youtu.be/cALgIHETMDU

They just figured that out?

http://www.dcclothesline.com/2015/07/23/americans-are-fleeing-us-cities-in-record-numbers/

I get your mixed emotions and well said. It also makes me wonder why now? Why is this coming out now instead of the years gold going down all was okay but now that he’s calling for a bottom getting closer and negating gold dropping to 6-700 levels does a attack on his credibility appear? It seems to me to many people globally like him. Even GBs have a love hate relationship with him so to speak. Hate him when it’s going down but love him while it’s going up. Why would the put something in there about a death like insinuating he had anything to do with it when it was a male nurse who admitted in starting the fire because he was resentful to the female nurses one I believe stayed and died with him while he ran off saved himself. From what I remember and really a lame reason for starting the fire.

What if you had made lots of money in the miners instead of lost it? Then I’ll bet you would be singing a different tune.

There are times when the miners have been great investments. Unfortunately no one can say that for the last few years.

What about jewelry (30%?, industrial uses? I think it’s healthier for the economy if the money supply is increasing at at least the rate of population growth.

PS You’d have to be nuts to have the PM miners your primary PM investment!

Forgot to mention they want to keep Trump out of debates because they want to push him to third party because we have degenerated to a group of carrear politicians  who want controlled elections by the club. Armstrongs predictions would be a  call that a third party appear to be materializing as well.

As most know, the definition of mixed emotions is watching your mother-in-law drive your brand new BMW off a 1000 ft cliff.

So I have mixed feelings about Martin. Yes, what he said about gold and PM’s has happened…..but…. Was it because of his cycle timing and confidence models that are working like clockwork??? Or was it because he made a deal to get out of jail if he follows the PTB playbook and agrees to mislead the world regarding PM’s??

I guess anybody can look like a genius if they have the playbook and TPTB’s manipulation remains under control, but as I said in an earlier post, I think the entire reason for this PM manipulation is to discredit PM’s to the point where we all lose faith in the fact that they have been the safe haven for the past 5000 + years. Now fiat is in trouble and TPTB want to lead and push us into a digital currency where they have total control…….but they cannot do that unless they can discourage and destroy our faith in gold and other PM’s.

So I’ll hold my hand, because IMO it is equivalent to a Royal Flush……It cannot be beat unless they can figure how to make me fold!!!!! And that ain’t gonna happen!!! PERIOD!!!  IMO NOTHING can beat my….Silverngold!!

Clinton or Bush, more of the same. I hope not. I think there is actually people who want them elected so they can profit off of keeping the U.S. down and then hoping it will recover after their gone. At the same time would have pity for anyone else inheriting the mess and debts left in their wake.

There is enough gold produced already.  How to measure its value is the problem.     Everything is against the shareholder of a mining company and I do not see that ever changing.  I am not alone in that opinion. Look at the $xau:$gold chart.  The market has said the same thing for 20 years.  The best you can hope for is a trade.  Back into my hole.

If he goes independent the he’s a tool to get Hillary elected. At the end of the day we’ll get the choice between a Clinton and a Bush. Sad to say.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/07/23/border-patrol-union-pulls-out-trump-meeting/

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That’s why I preface some posts with FWIW: For What It’s Worth.

I’ve had mixed feelings about Karen for years but still think some of what she presents sounds reasonable so needs to be aired, if for no other reason than to refute it….or to verify it!! No harm getting everything out in the open IMO!!!

“one redeeming quality”

How bout they produce the only substances on earth which has proven itself as real money and protects people from the predations of governments.

Mining companies vary in management just as other companies do. If the gold price was on it’s way to $2000 everyone would be saying how clever the ceos are and how good they are to stockholders.

I will agree that a lot of co. officers are thieves, and I will say that a lot aren’t too.

Cheers

I’m just sayin’ 🙂 🙁

He made a deal to get out of Jail  !  He did not get out by winning a Lawsuit .

What was the deal..I have no doubt they (the Feds) turned him …they Flipped him…..!

therefore everything he says is suspect…What ever they want him to say  ..I suspect.

He’s a free man ..good for him ! … but he’s now discredited by suspicion….

Wow!!!  well so far he hasn’t been wrong but Geeze.

Fast forward 16 years later. Think of all the evidence GATA has collected since then about market manipulation and the billions of dollars of fines paid by bullion banks for rigging one commodity market/financial market after another. These are facts, not exaggerations. And yet, after all of that, Martin A is right back to the same rant initiated so long ago.

The entire tale seems too wild to even be in a movie script. But first one more MIDAS commentary about Mr. Armstrong written in September of 1999, the day after I returned from Vancouver to meet with Normandy Mining chairman, Robert Champion de Crespigny, who refused to meet with me after agreeing to do so and having me fly 2,000 miles on behalf of GATA.

Talk about dull … the gold price was $1 lower on September 16, 1999 at $255.30.

The Way I See It – by Midas

By now, many of you have read about the antics of Mr. Martin Armstrong. What a story this is. I just returned from Vancouver where he visited often, spoke to many and was highly regarded by the Canadian commentators in that city. He was the man.

He is the man here and in Japan too. The con man. By now, those interested in financial matters know that he had a Ponzi scheme going of the first billion dollar order. It was uncovered by Japanese investigators, not U.S. investigators, who tout how on top of everything they are. What a joke! Recently, when queried about some funny goings on in the gold market, the CFTC said they would know if something was amiss in the gold market. Sure. Just like you had the hang of it on Armstrong.

Mr. Armstrong had so many fooled. He came across as Mr. Academia. But, he was no PhD; he did not even have a bachelor’s degree. His formal training was limited to courses at RCA Institute, an early New York City electronics technical school now known as Technical Career Institute. (Yet, he could call a press conference on why gold is so bearish and the press would fall all over him – we hold a press conference to logically explain why the gold market is manipulated and no one shows up).

From what I can tell from press reports, Martin and his cronies at Republic Securities were taking new money from investors to pay interest due to old investors. A classic Ponzi by a Ponzi. M.A. was not shy about talking his book. A renowned commodity trader with a more renowned ego, Armstrong, with all his brilliance, got most of the markets all wrong in recent times. He was long bonds, short oil, short yen and short gold. Three out of the 4 were the worst trades one can imagine. Bonds have gone straight down this year, oil and yen straight up. The only winner has been gold and it only kerplunked right after the BOE announcement on May 7.

This is where it gets interesting. That is when he took on GATA, telling us that gold was going to $200 and our theories of manipulation were gaga. We were such misguided souls, said he. That is also when the lease rates started to rise from a normal one per cent to as high as 5.08 per cent for one month gold just yesterday. Then in June, out of nowhere, he came out with a vitriolic, public attack on GATA for our beliefs. With all the pressure he must have been under, why would he take the time to attack us? That attack was circulated all over the world…

http://www.lemetropolecafe.com/Pfv1.cfm?pfvID=388&SearchParam=Armstrong

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Martin A’s dealings were with Republic Bank. As part of the movie bit, three more months later…

Edmond Safra dies in fire December 3, 1999: 2:57 p.m. ET

Billionaire Banker killed on verge of selling his Republic National Bank to HSBC

NEW YORK (CNNfn) – Billionaire banker Edmond Safra was killed early Friday when fire engulfed his Monte Carlo home, following an attack by two hooded men, according to Monaco’s official press office.

http://money.cnn.com/1999/12/03/worldbiz/safra/

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Anyway, after that Martin A went to jail the next month and for the entire gold bull market, finally let out on the exact month the price topped out in September of 2011. What a story…

Jailed Adviser Is Sentenced and Fined in Fraud Case
By MICHAEL J. de la MERCED

Published: April 11, 2007

Martin A. Armstrong, the financial adviser who has spent seven years in jail on a contempt-of-court charge, was sentenced yesterday to five years in prison for running what prosecutors said was a $3 billion Ponzi scheme.

Judge John F. Keenan of the Federal District Court in Manhattan also ordered Mr. Armstrong, 57, to pay $80 million — plus one dollar — in restitution to the fraud victims.

“Every criminal case is a human tragedy,” Judge Keenan said at the hearing yesterday. “But yours is particularly sad.”

Mr. Armstrong, the founder of Princeton Economics International, has been held in the Metropolitan Correctional Center in Lower Manhattan since January 2000. He has been jailed for contempt of court because he has not produced $15 million in gold and antiquities, as well as documents, stemming from a related civil suit filed by the government. It is one of the longest-running charges of contempt in American legal history…

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/11/business/11wall.html?ref=topics&_r=0

She is either a dis info agent or suffers from grandiose delusions. When she first came on the scene she would say on one show that the dollar was going down and then on the next show she would say the dollar was going up. She also claims that there is humungous amounts of gold in Hawai. yeah sure!  She says she used to work for the World Bank and has inside info. If that was true, why is she safe and lesser bankers are being offed?

As far Armstrong was never bearish gold long term in fact his models predict gold 22-24000 by 2032 but say not that it will get that high but in response to 30k gold said he doesn’t see it getting much higher than that.

What games the gold haters will play as or if lol its  hard to say but they are predictable criminals. Hopefully we’ll see a different president by them. One can only hope for the future. So many gold hater it’s time they got a reality check.

We have politicians living on the past innovations of people when we lived in a ” free” country and that didn’t mean live here free but free to explore to question to test theories and incourage innovation. As a result technology boomed as well as new inventions and jobs to make them.

Now we have brain dead in comparison politicians with no motivation to motivate, to compete, but to spend their ” our” inheritance of past riding it’s coat-tails until it’s gone. Their instead  more worried about what’s politically correct, not to question, what you can say and not say.  Brain dead. Where’s the motivators to move forward. They don’t seem to have the capacity. It’s like they don’t even see the value in that. Instead of taking that million and investing in making another million they just want to spend it. In the mean time the rest of the world catching up or driving out some of the foreign brains it’s now ” all made somewhere else.”

Instead we see them more worried about putting up a rainbow flag. They are probably seem as a laughing stock of the rest of the world. Some where over the rainbow. No puns intended to gays just saying..so instead of moving forward they are indoctrinating kids not to question, explore, but just everything’s just ticky tacky and should stay the same. Give them a list of what they can can’t say do and can’t do. This is going in the opposite direction of progress. Ps no more man on the moon.

If he could really tell the future he wouldn’t be peddling subscriptions…

Here’s his 1999 call:

There is most likely the typical summer rally from a June low that may yet develop. The public funds are all quite aggressively short and a rally is starting to appear overdue where a retest of $275-280 may be likely. Nevertheless, the prospects for lower prices into next year remain quite strong, where a drop to just under $200 performs a retest of the 1974 high.

The bullion trade has tried to use Y2K as a reason to rush out and buy gold. The central banks have been the sellers into that retail consumer demand as well. Even the British are now running advertisements offering new gold coins struck for the millennium. Some of the bankers have expressed a fear that the hype over Y2K that has been used by some bullion dealers could prove to be quite damaging to retail demand next year. The concern remains that a sharp drop in demand could unfold when the public sees that the banks have not collapsed and that life goes on.

There is also a growing fear that perhaps net sales by the public may also emerge causing prices to decline even further. Those banks that are selling gold to the public do NOT want to see a price collapse. They naturally want to sell gold coins at the highest possible price, as was the case with Australia.

We can entertain conspiracy theories and blame or threaten everyone who has ever uttered a bearish word about the precious metals, but this will not change a thing. It is going to be a very difficult period ahead for many involved in the precious metals and most other commodities as well.

Nonetheless, the only hope will be new lows in 2000 and a return to inflation perhaps due in part to Y2K. Any disruption to supply will cause a shortage of goods and that is price inflationary as was the case during the late 1970s.

If there is no serious problem and the stockpiling of goods and raw commodities by manufacturers going into year-end results in excess inventories, then there will be a risk of a further deflationary trend into 2002- 2003. Such an outcome would prompt further deflation and postpone any bull market in commodities until the 2003-2007 time period. These are major economic issues that will take time and patience to resolve.

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A PRO TRADER AND GATA SUPPORTER ANSWERED HIM:

All equity markets need to be free from manipulators of any kind. As you may have picked up on, I do support the GATA cause because I believe that these markets are being manipulated. And contrary to your belief of free markets, the gold market does not fall within this definition. Free markets are not markets where governments announce the sale of 415 tones of gold prior to the sale just to cap a suspected recovery. Sales such as these are politically motivated and not market motivated. The Bank of England had years to make it’s decision to sell 400+ tones of gold, when prices were much higher. They had as much power then than they did now to make the decision to sell their central bank gold at much higher prices. So why now; why at the $290/oz instead of $390/oz; and why was it coordinated with the known proposed IMF gold sale. Sure sounds like manipulation to me. So, maybe you don’t buy that little coincident. Try this one. Free markets are based upon one buyer, one seller….all is in balance. The demand should not exceed the existing supply and price fluctuates accordingly. But, if you lend gold to a trading partner and they sell it into the market without offsetting it against a future contract, you have in essence created supply where none existed before (because the gold has to be returned to the lender). Therefore that sale is manipulating the price artificially. This is why the price of gold can continue to fall in an environment where the demand continues to outstrip the supply year over year. Eventually, the world runs out of unassigned gold and the day of reckoning prevails. This kind of market manipulation leads to extreme price swings of unsettled and uncontrolled markets. If it were just central banks selling gold into the market (a one way transaction), it would not be considered manipulation. However, these are two way transactions where gold is lent out and then sold into the market with hopes of some future gold cover. But this can not happen because supply has been created where none existed before and demand has consumed the existing supply. This is manipulation of a free market because there is no possible way that the short position can be covered by willing holders of the metal…ergo…the market collapses and the perpetrators go bankrupt and the market purges itself of the abusers. Once again the market returns to balance, but only after the write off of the artificially created supply.

Kentucky – pretty much have to agree with you. The CEO’s of mining companies have never given a rats ass about shareholders. I have no doubt the banksters are trying to bankrupt every last one of them and they deserve it! Now, whatever meds you’re on, do you mind sharing? 🙂

Silverngold – Karen Hudes has SEVERE MENTAL PROBLEMS. There is nothing right about her. How she has become an internet icon is beyond me.

This goldbug has a different take.  Before retiring made most of my income dealing with tech stocks.  But from 2002 to 2006 decided to place most assets in precious metals as an insurance policy.  In 2011 Armstrong made the case for gold’s decline.  I did not act on this because of the historical nature of fiat vs gold and the 28% precious metals tax.  Perhaps if I were younger I’d play Armstrong’s trading advice .  I do like his comprehensive monitoring of world-wide capital flows and inter-related markets.

https://youtu.be/Wx_OKPl27s0