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the smoking gun to 9/11 is building I..full stop

I do recall that engine being located blocks away and said to have come from a completely different aircraft, so I assumed it was a plant. Either that or they used a completely different aircraft to hit the towers, IF they were indeed hit. What’s the chances that all that debris is also just plants, and why would they make an effort to save those airplane parts when they were making such an effort to destroy or remove all the other evidence??  Some things just don’t add up IMO. I don’t think we’ll ever know for sure but I appreciate your input.

I was being tongue-in-cheek and sarcastic when I thanked those behind the 9/11 carnage for their steel “gift” 15 years later.  Mrs. Equiz learned long ago how to spot my sarcasm whenever it surfaces, but I still forget that it may not always be obvious through a keyboard whether I am being genuine or sarcastic.  My apologies for not making my sarcasm clear.

http://www.bnn.ca/video/robert-mcewen-why-my-dream-is-getting-into-s-p-500~948034

Supervisor Of “Massive Fraud” At Wells Fargo Leaves Bank With $125 Million Bonus

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-12/

Personally, I feel it to be macabre…  but that’s just me.

Very little of the steel survived… mostly as token memorials such as this.  Most was rushed to the scrappers who sold it abroad.  Some was also used in construction of a Navy ship… they didn’t say how much (or little).

I don’t know how these ‘video conspiracies’ keep perpetuating in the face of so much contrary evidence… unless they are a purposeful plant to discredit the whole 9/11 attack… a strawman easily shot down.  There is plenty of evidence of aircraft parts littering the ground around the towers.  Do a websearch for images of “aircraft parts at twin towers”.

Landing gear:

Jet engine carcass:

Passenger cabin wall with windows:

There were many parts, and the investigators were diligent about cleaning them up separately from the building debris in order to facilitate the investigation… SOP in an aircraft accident:

The Pentagon is the place where NO AIRCRAFT PARTS were found.  No engines.  No landing gear.  Only a couple of trivially small pieces that were likely ‘plants’ with proper ID attached yet, of course!

I remember an image of a fin with the AA logo on it, before someone pointed out that the fin was too small for the alleged airliner that hit.  That image has now disappeared.  Here is the hole in the pentagon wall… not exactly airliner sized.

“The scrap steel was also disposed of quickly to prevent detailed examination”.  I noticed yesterday that some steel from the site was being gifted to the people of Gander, Newfoundland (see news link below).  Thanks, US and Mossad, for such a moving gesture.  I wonder what  the hosts and hostesses who lived in Gander on 9 September 2001 think of this memento “gift”.

World Trade Center beam being gifted to Gander, NL, escorted across Maritimes

The only thing I question is your friend having actually seen the plane hit the towers. I know the mind can play tricks on us because I once remember being victim to it happening to me. I was hunting for a cattle killing wolf just at dawn in 1985. That wolf stepped out of the bush right in plain sight. I had a 3X9  scope mounted on a 30-06 GameMaster rifle that gave me perfect vision of that wolf, no doubts, and I never missed at that distance. As I was squeezing off my shot that wolf turned slightly……and I realized it was my old Border Collie…..not the wolf……..and I had been SO SURE I was shooting at the wolf. I had SEEN the wolf.  Old Sport and I were both lucky that day. Another moment would have been too late.

But back to your friend. I don’t doubt his honesty, I only doubt  he saw what he thinks he saw. There is too much conflicting evidence that shows there were no planes. Veteran pilots say it is not possible, even for them, and that the plane would not have been able to fly at its shown speed, which was 400 mph, and maneuver to make that strike on the tower, even for the veteran pilots. The plane would have had to be flying at close to its landing speed and would have still been next to impossible to do. Also it was reported that within a few days of 9/11 there was a construction crew working at that exact location, inside and outside the tower. What’s the odds?? IMO more likely they were planting the explosives used to simulate a plane strike since the simulation footage of the plane was already made. Also the original footage used to televise the event had a serious error showing that the plane nosecone went completely through the tower so its undamaged nosecone  was sticking out the other side. We’re talking about aircraft aluminum so it is not possible and was simply an error in photography that was corrected some time later, but not before the original televised event. Plus the fact that there was NO plane parts….not even an engine, recovered from the site. Oh yeah, I forgot, one of the skyjackers passports was found almost undamaged on the sidewalk after the event, even though most everything else in the tower was vaporized.

About the rest of your very good summary I completely agree with you. One exception was I think it was George Bush’s brother Marvin, not his cousin, who was in charge of security, but I might be mistaken.  All the Best to you Maya, and again Thanks!!

Cheers, and we dance a jig.

I just came dragging in from cutting, loading, and hauling a huge load of firewood, and decided to listen to your post. That was a great pick-me-up when I needed it……and I’m not even from the deep south.  However, it is invigorating to hear such enthusiasm in this apathetic world of today. LOL!!! Again thanks!!

People are smiling a bit more in Mudville.

The video special effects described are entirely possible… but I do not believe were used. I don’t think they were necessary. People on the ground saw planes. Planes are missing, and the people onboard those planes are missing. Those planes could have been remote-controlled, eliminating the need for an expert pilot highjacker. A cameraman I worked with once was a couple blocks from the towers working for King World features. He saw the second plane hit, and rolled some spectacular video footage from the ground looking up at the tower as it fell right in front of him. The crew was dragging him backwards by the collar to get away from the area but he doggedly kept rolling until the dust cloud engulfed him and he had to stop. Only then did he turn around and run the other way.

The video of the planes impacting the towers are consistent with reality, IMO. The damage is consistent with reality. But the damage should have stopped right there. The damage was not enough to collapse the towers, or it would have happened immediately. The towers were rigged with explosives and thermite steel-cutter charges to slice the big beams. This was done by ‘construction’ crews in the building.. headed by a Bush cousin, and probably by some Mossad mercenaries they employed.

As I have written here before, I had an engineer friend who worked at the TV transmitter site on the 110th floor of the tower. The cap of the tower that held the TV tower was a concrete block some 25 feet thick. My engineer friend’s co-worker, Bill Steckman, was the engineer on duty at the transmitter site that morning. After the plane hit, there appears to have been some sort of tightly focussed explosion in the basement that went up the core of the tower. A mini-nuke, perhaps? I note the absence of any radiation readings afterwards, but the rescue crews dying of lung cancer attributed to the dust. Maybe it was radioactive? The scrap steel was also disposed of quickly to prevent detailed examination.

The videos of the collapse show the TV tower sinking into that 25 foot concrete block first, as the underside is fractured by that explosion. Bill Steckman was under that tower. His body made it all the way down the core and all the elevator shafts to land in the basement… before the rest of the tower collapsed. Bill Steckman’s body was one of the last ones recovered… at the bottom of the building pile that collapsed on top of him. And then there was that glowing, molten pile at the bottom that was hot for days afterwards. That was not jet fuel.

The Pentagon is an exception. It was hit by a cruise missile that might have had an American Airlines logo painted on it’s fin. The missile left a very small hole in the building before that sidewall collapsed… too small to be an airliner. The American Airlines jet that allegedly hit the pentagon has a very spooky record. The plane with that serial number appeared to have been refurbished, registered anew, and returned to service a year or two later. Speculation is that during the emergency, that plane was directed to land at a local military facility where it could be ‘disappeared’ in a controlled manner. I suspect the passengers were escorted off incommunicado, contained, and ‘disappeared’ also. But they saved the plane.

This is the summary of all my research, and what I believe really happened.  My greatest obstacle was overcoming my own belief that we couldn’t possibly have such monsters in our own government that would perform these attacks.  The enemy within is real, I finally decided, and will stop at absolutely nothing… mass murder included.  This radically changed my world view for the worse.

They can zig it and zag it all they want, to confuse everyone, but the USA can’t afford a strong dollar and globalization anymore, and “THEY” know it.

For their own good, they NEED a better off US YOUNG, consumer/tax/payer to support big business, and support all the tax absorbing civil service jobs and tax absorbing gov’t vendor jobs and foreign aid and foreign imports.
Remember…

Any and all taxes received and spent BY, tax absorbing civil service jobs and tax absorbing gov’t vendor jobs and foreign aid and foreign imports, actually CAME from actual tax PAYERS that get nothing from taxes, other than use of highways.

http://schrts.co/g9q3oN

did it bottom this morning?

just in case it did, i picked up some shny.  so far, so good.

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/09/12/lael-brainard-of-federal-reserve-warns-against-moving-too-quickly-on-interest-rate-hikes.html

Comment: Her words of wisdom will surely astound you.

https://youtu.be/fTHT7MXLef8

but I think conspiracies are a slippery slope. I certainly question everything. But in the end it’s safest to stick with the facts and try to piece together your version of reality.

You seem to enjoy calling me a conspiracy nut. I’d like your opinion on this video and the last two before this that I posted on 9/11. Is this just a bunch of conspiracy nuts or do they prove their point?? I’d really like to know if you are so blind you can’t even see the truth in this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgaBJagQA1s

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-09-11/u-s-rate-hike-won-t-spoil-appetite-for-gold-state-street-says

From politics, to healthcare, safety of our food supply, and to the markets, it is all an illusion, so Step Right Up.