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Ororeef

Posted by Maddog @ 13:51 on November 30, 2016  

Erdogan has to move now, before Trump is installed and makes friends with Vlad…..he has to be a player, as u rightly say, because he must not let the Kurds have too much say.

Doubt it will work, as Trump and Vlad will find common cause and Erdogan will be left on sidelines, as he is after all a muzzie and the less either hear from them the better, as far as they are concerned…..

Russia’s entire southern border is muzzie, Vlad has to contain them.

Why Mitt Romney ? Connecting the dots.

Posted by Samb @ 13:48 on November 30, 2016  

 

Nice split amongst Trumps inner circle. Huckabee, Gulianni, Kelly Ann Conway, Gingrich  say hell NO!  That Romney guy is a two faced  SOB that stepped WAY over the line. No question that they are correct. However, opposing them are Reince Pierbus  and Mike Pence…very powerful Trump confidants. And who are these latter two deeply connected to??  None other then Paul Ryan! And why would Trump need Paul Ryan’s help? Well if Trump has major game changing legislation in mind he will need every Republican vote that he can get including those elitist Rino and Neo Con votes. Distasteful but, perhaps necessary is the thinking.  Amongst the most trusted Trump advisors are his children  who recomended Mike Pence for the VP slot.  They have not announced which side that they will back in this fight yet. Behind the scenes it seems doubtful that they will go against Pence. Trump does not take kindly to being trashed talked and Romney did a heap of it. To get his agenda thru congress, Trump may have decided to dance with the devil and do it with a smile.

Farmboy @ 13:06 on November 30, 2016

Posted by Ororeef @ 13:13 on November 30, 2016  

ITS RIGGED !  by the Democrat GANGSTAS  ,UNIONS, the usual SUSPECTS  !

Maddog @ 10:05 on November 30, 2016 After ASSAD who ?

Posted by Ororeef @ 13:11 on November 30, 2016  

another vacuum to be filled by another Radical Islamist ?  ASSAD allowed the Christians to live in peace protecting all citizens including KURDS ……Is that what TURKEYS invasion is all about ..keeping the KURDS DOWN in Turkey ?

SEEMS to me we need to listen to the Russian point of View about what Turkeys up to !  Are we supporting Muslim Turkey against Christian Russia ?  Just what side are we on ?

Dems Double Down ?!

Posted by Farmboy @ 13:06 on November 30, 2016  

Nancy Pelosi gets re-elected as Democratic House leader, fending off Tim Ryan’s challenge

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/30/nancy-pelosi-gets-re-elected-as-democratic-house-leader-fending-off-tim-ryans-challenge.html

Comment: One would think, after the shellacking the Democrats had during the election and now left with only 5 states that have D governors and houses, that they might want to rethink their failed policies that the voters rejected in mass. Nope, they re-elect Pelosi, things just could not be going better for the Republicans.

Why is it thieves are always doing it “for the Children” Robbery is Robbery !

Posted by Ororeef @ 12:55 on November 30, 2016  

the same ole excuse for robbing someone elses money ,  some one elses retirement Fund , someone elses Medicare Fund ,Iv seen insurance Companies be robbed of private money paid in by individuals for private insurance that was allowed to be robbed because they were “doing it for the Children” !

This is it! This is it!

Posted by eeos @ 12:54 on November 30, 2016  

Zzzzzzzzz

GOVERNMENT RUN FUNDS

Posted by Ororeef @ 12:44 on November 30, 2016  

like SOC SEC & Medicare should be self sustaining  PRIVATE BENEFIT FUNDS Managed by the Government open only to those that PAID into them .!   Raiding them is ROBBERY by the POLITICIANS   better known as MOB RULE  ..!

Perhaps If We Leave Room For ‘Outside The Box’ ??

Posted by Farmboy @ 12:39 on November 30, 2016  

Maddog @ 11:49 on November 30, 2016

Where I lose the mkts is Dollar strength, no way can u rebuild manufacturing with Dollar going bonkers bid…..or with the Rig going 24/7.”

I agree, it is all kind of fuzzy at the moment. How is Trump going to Get Er Done?

I think Trump has a lot of room to work his magic. For example:

Which dollar? The one in current use now, or a new dollar?

A dollar tied to what basket?

A dollar backed, in full or part by one or more commodities ?

No doubt there are pitfalls and hurdles ahead, but I think Trump is willing, and even capable, of putting a team together to reset the financial house, to put things in order. There of course will be the naysayers, just like the one’s that touted the end of the world if Brexit passed.

Yeah, I think Trump is going to be alright, our Country doing better. I aint come this far to throw in the towel yet. 🙂

And I agree with your charts on the markets. This little bump up is not going to last as long as an eight second ride on Bad Ass Moon The Bull. Best get ready for some ‘air time’ before gravity does it’s thing. 🙂

 

Stupid Lesbians re : Ororeef @ 12:11

Posted by Ororeef @ 12:24 on November 30, 2016  

This is the kind of CRAP that Bankrupts the SOC SEC FUND …letting them collect DISABILITY  .

Disability should be seperated from SOC SEC ..its not a RETIREMENT related caused event.ITS a welfare benefit and the only reason they allowed them to steal money from SOC SEC Fund was thats where the money was ! The same reason wILLIE sutton GAVE FOR “WHY DO YOU rob banks ? “tHATS WHERE THE MONEY IS ” …stop ROBBING soc sec…! the Fund had money in it reserved to make Retirement for those that paid into it.  DISABILITY is a SCAM to Raid retirement Funds …DISABILITY properly belongs as a WELFARE Program. There are too many Raiding the FUND thats why its RESERVES go down. SAME for AID to DEPENDENT CHILDREN !..They never PAID into the FUND !  ITS a RETIREMENT FUND !  NOT a SLUSH FUND !

Mr.Copper @ 10:31 I’m Going To Have To Disagree With You,

Posted by Farmboy @ 12:21 on November 30, 2016  

I’ve read your comments about the PTB pulling a slick one and putting Trump into office as their pick. I usually agree with your thoughts, but on this one I cant get my mind around your thinking, emotionally, or otherwise.

Tell ya what I think happened. The silent majority in this country finally woke up, walked up, and bitch slapped the Elitists. And we put our outsider Trump into the Oval Office, with a clear mandate, Drain The Swamp.  Sometimes that Occam’s Razor theory is the best one.

Now your theory may prove to be right yet. I’m giving it some latitude since this is not the first time we have sent folks up to Washington (tea party) and they failed. Is it fair to say lets give Trump a shot at it. I have to stick with him, because their is no Plan B.

Maddog

Posted by goldielocks @ 12:20 on November 30, 2016  

I’m not one to defend Romney, I don’t like or trust the guy. As a foreigner, which Im not, just sayin, if I was watching the elections and Romney who would rather give the WH to Killery knowing or not caring what a disaster that would be then turn around and want a job from Trump  would I trust him as a foreign leader when he so easily turns on people for his own gain? I know I wouldn’t. Trumps better to determine that than me I should hope anyways and guessing why he’s having multi meetings concerning foreign affairs.

Kansas man who sold sperm for $50 not liable for $6,000 in child support to lesbian couple, judge rules

Posted by Ororeef @ 12:11 on November 30, 2016  

Lesbian LOGIC …..Its all your Fault !

This Dec. 31, 2012 file photo shows Kansas sperm donor William Marotta.

Jeff Davis / The Topeka Capital-Journal This Dec. 31, 2012 file photo shows Kansas sperm donor William Marotta.

TOPEKA, Kan. — A Topeka man who answered a Craigslist ad to donate sperm so two women could have a baby together is not legally the child’s father and isn’t required to provide financial support, a Kansas judge has ruled.

The state Department for Children and Families had not decided as of Tuesday whether it would appeal last week’s ruling by Shawnee County District Judge Mary Mattivi.

The department sought to force William Marotta to pay child support for the girl born in December 2009.

If the presumptive parent, in this case the non-biological mother, had been a man, they never would have gone after the sperm donor

Mattivi last year required Marotta to submit a DNA sample to confirm that he was the girl’s biological father and declared he was not “a mere donor of sperm.” But the judge’s Nov. 22 ruling concluded that birth mother’s former partner should be considered the child’s second parent rather than Marotta, in part because he has had minimal contact with the girl.

The department filed a petition in 2012 to have Marotta declared the child’s legal father and require him to pay child support after the women, birth mother Jennifer Schreiner and Angela Bauer, separated and Schreiner received assistance from the state. The department initially sought to reclaim about almost $6,100 in expenses associated with the child’s birth.

MySpace

MySpaceAngela Bauer and Jennifer Schreiner.

The case illustrated how older laws on assisted reproduction in Kansas and others have not been updated. Charles Baylor, Marotta’s attorney, said the Kansas agency’s position was “radical” and discriminated against same-sex couples.

“If the presumptive parent, in this case the non-biological mother, had been a man, they never would have gone after the sperm donor,” Baylor said.

The agency argued that Marotta was legally on the hook for child support — even though he never intended to act as the child’s father — because the two women did not use a physician. In her ruling, Mattivi said Bauer is unable to work and is receiving Social Security disability benefits.

A 1994 Kansas law says a man who provides donated sperm to a doctor for an insemination is not the child’s parent, absent a written agreement saying otherwise.

State of Kansas

State of KansasThe 2009 sperm donor agreement reached by Angela Bauer, Jennifer Schreiner and William Marotta.

Marotta and the two women signed a contract in which they agreed to pay him $50 for every semen donation. Legal documents say Schreiner was impregnated with a syringe in early 2009.

Secretary Phyllis Gilmore said the department is disappointed with Mattivi’s ruling, adding in a statement that “the law pertaining to sperm donors is clear and was ignored in this ruling.”

Courtney Joslin, a University of California, Davis law professor, said a commission on uniform state laws recommended in 2000 and 2002 that states eliminate a requirement that physicians be involved in assisted reproduction to protect sperm donors. Eleven states adopted its recommendations, and California independently repealed the requirement as of this year, she said.

Nine states and the District of Columbia have laws that treat an unmarried partner as a legal parent when there is assisted reproduction, Joslin said.

Mattivi’s latest ruling noted that Schreiner and Bauer are parenting the girl together and that Kansas courts have long held that the child’s best interest is the key issue. The judge said Bauer’s presumption of parenthood is “superior” to Marotta’s.

A friend of Marotta’s started a GoFundMe page to raise money for his legal expenses. As of Tuesday, the effort had raised about $2,300.

Buygold @ 11:25

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 12:09 on November 30, 2016  

Thanks for the comeback, I sincerely hope I’m wrong, but I can’t help being brutally practical. As Goldilocks said…”he’s trying to do what’s best for the economy and country”? What I keep hearing is infrastructure spending, and defense spending, more national debt, classic Keynesian Economics.

newtogold @ 11:42 Yep, The ‘Camel Liars Club’ Has Agreed To Cut Production

Posted by Farmboy @ 12:09 on November 30, 2016  

OPEC reaches agreement to cut oil production to 32.5 million barrels a day:

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/30/opec-reportedly-reaches-agreement-to-cut-oil-production.html

Comment: I agree with Art Cashin on CNBC, it wont be 24 hours before someone starts cheating on their production cut.

Probably a good short term trade is short the hell out of oil. Doubt this bump up lasts more than a few days.

goldielocks

Posted by Maddog @ 12:03 on November 30, 2016  

Romney is even worse as Mnuchin was loyal and might just be disgusted about Fall st….but Romney did his v best to stop Trump …plus what experience does he have to be SoS….my guess is less than Zero…he could be as bad as Lurch…..

Farmboy

Posted by Maddog @ 11:49 on November 30, 2016  

Hope yr right about Trump, one poster on Zero said following

Mnuchin will be a great asset in the administration. He’s like Trump in that he rubs shoulders with insiders but isnt one.

Indy Mac proves that.

The reason he went Hollywood was to get away from such an over-regulated mess that is the mortgage industry.

He’s not in the tank for Wall Street. I remember the execs at Goldman were happy to see him leave.

Trust me, this is good.

That sounds like someone who knows !!!!!

Where I lose the mkts is Dollar strength, no way can u rebuild manufacturing with Dollar going bonkers bid…..or with the Rig going 24/7.

My chart work says we could be close to serious SM correction, so maybe we are seeing blow off moves here.

Cheers

Fed debate in two weeks will have to be centered around a half point raise.

Posted by macroman3 @ 11:46 on November 30, 2016  

Go ahead Fed, make my day, I dare you.

Buygold 11:25

Posted by goldielocks @ 11:46 on November 30, 2016  

Lol I bet a lot of people have that thought in the back of their minds. I think he is moving toward a better economy. Away from the expanding gov taxing and regulating to death to expanding the private sector. It was turning into the Leaning Tower of Pisa.

Crude up 3.97(8 plus %)

Posted by newtogold @ 11:42 on November 30, 2016  

Wow. What happened. Did OPEC decide to agree on something. Down almost two bucks yesterday on non agreement tween members so I read.

Maddog 6:08

Posted by goldielocks @ 11:38 on November 30, 2016  

Trump has a hard decision  as far as Romney it just shows that he’s trying to do what’s best for the economy and country and considering putting aside Romney’s  pathetic  display of the club that was one of the white shoe boys that was turning the people away from they repub party. He’s looking for someone most experienced in negotiation and knowledgable with business.  Besides my personal concerns as well as probably many others is Romney going rogue like they did on us for personal gain. It will be more difficult now with the party separating from the club and the wake up call both partys got from this election. Now it’s their jobs on the line. It will be harder to go forward with internal fighting. I think this has to do more with economics.

Yikes, the moves in FX, bonds and oil makes me want to go long stretchers.

Posted by macroman3 @ 11:30 on November 30, 2016  

Maya, good allegory but that CN Boston Bar is a bridge too far for me.

Otherwise I would be tempted to jump off of it!

Well Mr Copper

Posted by Buygold @ 11:25 on November 30, 2016  

If that is truly what happened in the election and the TPTB put in their man who was actually Trump to begin with, then they just pulled off the biggest mindfvck in history.

Scary thought that we’d be duped yet again.

re Trump, all his other picks made sense and re I Admit, Couple of Trump’s Picks Puzzle Me

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 10:31 on November 30, 2016  

There were things Trump said, that should have been said, (to get votes) and there were things Trump did NOT say that should have been said, (to get votes) and it made me think, TPTB were using “Trump” to maintain their decades of power.

Or to regain the power they were gradually LOSING with the present Congress that got “infiltrated” by outsiders, called Tea Party. TPTB did NOT want Cruz at all.

I’ll not go into detail, think for yourselves, what makes or does not sense, being PRACTICAL leaving OUT emotion.

The USDJPY and the “Price Of Gold”

Posted by ipso facto @ 10:23 on November 30, 2016  

Well, we’ve finally reached “contract expiration” day as the Dec16 Comex gold and silver contracts go off the board and into “delivery” at the close today. With total Comex open interest now back to the levels of last December, could price finally be near a bottom?
As usual, we must look at the USDJPY for clues:

http://www.silverdoctors.com/gold/gold-news/the-usdjpy-and-the-price-of-gold/#more-74591

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