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Thank you for the kind words, they are most appreciated.

When people stubbornly hold because of a number ignoring the signs they will regret.Some will not even mention it because they think they are having a affect on that number if they do. The gurus don’t pay your bills. PMs are the most volatile of all.
As for Phyz insurance a pre 65 silver quarter still buys a gallon of gas and a few candy bars. Then there is a threat of a cashless system where phyz would be their nemisus. A bigger threat appears not to be inflation but Gov and “taxes.” Too bad taxes can’t have a inflation number they have to abide by because voters never fail to vote these people in voting on side tracks like PC and scare tactics, the rats can always scares the mice, instead of real constitutional issues.

at 10:42 and mentioned that it was enlightening.  Amongst the posters on this website who are residents of the U.S. you stand out because you do repost the message that Kirby has repeatedly focussed on since Eric deCarbonnel released his analysis in 2011 about the history and role of the ESF.  Very few people beyond Kirby have focussed on what deCarbonnell put together.  I am so glad to see you help bring this information about the ESF forward.

Cheeers.   Equiz

http://www.marketskeptics.com/2011/06/the-esf-and-its-history.html

Bottomline appears for me that having 100% in pm’s was a stupid decision. Ipso told me as much a while back. I always thought diversifying was idiocy if you had a beat on where things were going. Selling all in 2011 would have done the trick and been the smart move.

So idiocy and pm’s going nowhere for years keep me up at night and I get to replay all the idiocy of my investing career over and over.

However, I think all of you are very wise and have it figured out pretty well.

Insurance to me is something we wait to die and collect on. If that’s what gold is, I want none of it. I would dump it all if I thought there were something with promise that was undervalued – unfortunately the only thing that is undervalued is pm’s – so I continue to hold and curse. 🙂

Is Trudeau funding Terrorists? No excuse for this atrocity. Something Stinks. Canada is in trouble with a leader like that. No rewards for a terrorist’s murder of a US citizen.
Isn’t it Canada where Clinton launders money from contributors to her Foundation & that’s why she’s closing it down. She makes the mafia look like bean shooters by comparison. Copied from a post I saw Oh what tangled webs she weaves..The Clinton Foundation is “organized crime” at its finest.
Here is a good, concise summary of how the Clinton Foundation works as a tax free international money laundering scheme. It may eventually prove to be the largest political criminal enterprise in U.S. History.
This is a textbook case on how you hide foreign money sent to you and repackage it to be used for your own purposes. All tax free.
Here’s how it works:
1. You create a separate foreign “charity.” In this case, the Clintons set it up in Canada.
2. Foreign oligarchs and governments, then donate to this Canadian charity. In this case, over 1,000 did – contributing mega millions. I’m sure they did this out of the goodness of their hearts, and expected nothing in return. (Imagine Putin’s buddies waking up one morning and just deciding to send untold millions to a Canadian charity).
3. The Canadian charity then bundles these separate donations and makes a massive donation to the Clinton Foundation.
4. The Clinton Foundation and the cooperating Canadian charity claim Canadian law prohibits the identification of individual donors.
5. The Clinton Foundation then “spends” some of this money for legitimate good works programs. Unfortunately, experts believe this is on the order of 10%. Much of the balance goes to enrich the Clintons, pay salaries to untold numbers of hangers on, and fund lavish travel, etc. Again, virtually tax free, which means you and I are subsidizing it.
6. The Clinton Foundation, with access to the world’s best accountants, somehow fails to report much of this on their tax filings. They discover these “clerical errors” and begin the process of re-filing 5 years of tax returns.

7. Net result – foreign money goes into the Clinton’s pockets tax free and untraceable back to the original donor. This is the textbook definition of money laundering. Oh, by the way, the Canadian “charity” includes as a principal one Frank Giustra. Google him. He is the guy who was central to the formation of Uranium One, the Canadian company that somehow acquired massive U.S. Uranium interests and then sold them to an organization controlled by Russia. This transaction required U.S. State Department approval, and guess who was Secretary of State when the approval was granted.
As an aside, imagine how former Virginia Governor Bob McDonnell feels. That poor schlep is in jail because he and his wife took $165,000 in gifts and loans for doing minor favors for a guy promoting a vitamin company. Not legal but not exactly putting U.S. Security at risk.
Sarcasm aside, if you’re still not persuaded this was a cleverly structured way to get unidentified foreign money to the Clintons, ask yourself this: Why did these foreign interests funnel money through a Canadian charity? Why not donate directly to the Clinton Foundation? Better yet, why not donate money directly to the people, organizations and countries in need?
This is the essence of money laundering and influence peddling. Now you know why Hillary’s destruction of 30,000 e-mails was a risk she was willing to take. Bill and Hillary are devious, unprincipled, dishonest and criminal and they are Slick!
Warning: They could be back in the White House in January 2017.
Don’t let it happen.
Remember, most people are not well informed. We must inform and educate them.

• IF YOU WONDERING HOW IT”S KEPT OUT OR PUT INTO THE MEDIA READ THIS IF YOU HAD A HUNCH THE NEWS SYSTEM WAS SOMEWHAT RIGGED AND YOU IF YOU WONDERING HOW IT”S KEPT OUT PUT INTO THE MEDIA READ THIS IF YOU HAD A HUNCH THE NEWS SYSTEM WAS SOMEWHAT RIGGED AND YOU COULDN’T PUT YOUR FINGER ON IT, THIS MIGHT HELP YOU SOLVE THE PUZZLE.
ABC News executive producer Ian Cameron is married to Susan Rice, National Security Adviser.
CBS President David Rhodes is the brother of Ben Rhodes, Obama’s Deputy National Security Adviser for Strategic Communications.
ABC News correspondent Claire Shipman is married to former Whitehouse Press Secretary Jay Carney
ABC News and Univision reporter Matthew Jaffe is married to Katie Hogan, Obama’s Deputy Press Secretary
ABC President Ben Sherwood is the brother of Obama’s Special Adviser Elizabeth Sherwood
CNN President Virginia Moseley is married to former Hillary Clinton’s Deputy Secretary Tom Nides.
And now you know why it is no surprise the media usually goes very easy on Hillary’s & Obama’s many errors.
Ya think there might be a little bias in the news?

Look whose she’s taking money from Countries that are hostile towards America 100s of millions from Mid Eastern theocracy ruled nations that abide by Shariah Law the GREATEST abomination against women & children beheadings, pedophilia, and genocide of Christians & plan to increase migration by 550% from countries that burn our flag & state death to America & Israel is she out of her mind???? The father of the Orlando massacre was in a VIP section at her rally Mateen. CHECK THIS OUT 375,000 deposit to Kahns Account from Clinton Foundation
http://www.govtslaves.info/375000-deposited-to-the-khan-law-account-from-the-clinton-foundation/

Khizr Khan, the Muslim Gold Star father that the mainstream media and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton have been using to criticize Donald J. Trump, has deep ties to the government of Saudi Arabia—and to international Islamist investors through his own law firm.
http://shoebat.com/2016/07/31/what-the-media-is-not-telling-you-about-the-muslim-who-attacked-donald-trump-he-is-a-muslim-brotherhood-agent-who-wants-to-advance-sharia-law-and-bring-muslims-into-the-united-states/

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/08/02/khizr-khan-deletes-law-firm-website-proving-financially-benefits-pay-play-muslim-migration/
http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/trump-khan-11-words-navy-seal-hero-destroys/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6raoMpEEQ8 Commentary on why his appearance was inappropriate.

Its important for you in America to see who owns the majority of your Media! In this chart you will see who is in charge of the message you get via the folks in the center of this chart(Note one Bill Clinton here,right side around 4 o’clock). Nothing more then paid puppets,not journalists!
https://stopsyjonizmowi.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/bilderberg.jpg

“That is a great topic of debate because I haven’t found pm’s to be a good insurance policy, nor have I slept well holding it – probably because I own too much.”

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This is exactly the kind of FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt) that the long Gold manipulation cartel intends and works to ‘sell’ as a prevailing attitude. Along with a strong dose of “normalcy bias” (Everthing is working OK) they hope to keep the game going as long as possible. But individually, we had each better have our own ‘exit strategy’ for when the game collapses… as it must, sometime.
So you have not found PMs to be a good insurance policy? Like Life Insurance, the covered is not around to judge if the policy was good or not at payout. We haven’t needed the gold insurance payout… yet.
I agree with Moggy and Portugeezer. I have long said that paper will burn. I got completely out of paper mining shares and began serious stacking of physical. It has been a good ‘savings account’ for me, as I am not adverse to spending a bit of it for emergencies. But if I have the excess cash, I would also ‘buy more’ for longer term holdings. Paper shares are the plague… built on that drug “Hopium” that someday your ship will come in. Nope… the control is total. And when the control ends, so does the system, and you will not get your investment returns.
Physical tightly held is your insurance against this end time collapse. It is coming. Who knows when? But it is coming.

Why I see gold as insurance against possible disaster. My comments refer to bullion only, as I think all paper “assets” will eventually burn.

Gold has maintained its value throughout the last 5,000 years. It retains its value not only in times of financial uncertainty, but in times of geopolitical uncertainty, which is why it is referred to as the “crisis commodity.”

Central banks around the world have sharply stepped up their purchases of gold bullion these past few years. They see the hand writing on the wall.

Federal budget deficits remain a serious problem, growing exponentially by the year.

It is a way to pass on and preserve wealth from one generation to the next.

And then there is the wisdom of the most intelligent woman in America, Catherine Austin Fitts:

Investment banker Catherine Austin Fitts sums up the historic global financial problems by saying, “We have a group of people who have the power to act with impunity. They are above the law. They are centralizing and consolidating economic and political power. We have a political problem. We don’t have an economic problem.” Fitts’ analysis shows, “We’ve been on a debt model, and now we’ve got to get the planet on an equity model. . . .You are going to do everything you can do to get people into equities. Slamming precious metals down helps do that.” But Fitts says that won’t stop the gold bull because China and the rest of the world are buying the yellow metal. Fitts contends, “What that means is there is going to be a much more broad-based bull market in gold. . . I think it’s going to more of a sound money system, and gold is going to be a part of that.” Not everybody wants to be brought into the so-called new world order. Fitts predicts, “Remember, to come out with a one world currency, you need everybody. There can be no leakage. There can be no exceptions. The Russians are determined to be the stinker at the party is what I think.”

That is a great topic of debate because I haven’t found pm’s to be a good insurance policy, nor have I slept well holding it – probably because I own too much.

It did not hold up in 08-09′ when the SM crashed, has not kept pace with inflation, and has generally underperformed every other asset class in the last decade.

So what are we taking about insuring against? A Venezuela, Zimbabwe type meltdown it probably would be great to have, perhaps just a currency meltdown?

The problem is that the USD is the world’s reserve currency, and to think that someday it will be removed may just be wishful thinking. What would it be replaced with? Rubles? Yuan? Yen? Euro’s? Doubtful because as big of a mess the United States is, the rest of the world sucks even more.

Please make the insurance case for the tent.

https://youtu.be/dLFjgk4tVcY

Enlightening interview…the rabbit hole gets deeper.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkPfVErSj6c

Most of the “experts” in precious metals have been wrong in the years I have been following them.

The guy who dumped his silver bars may live to regret it.

There isn’t anything that would cause me to reduce my holdings as I didn’t purchase them for an investment.  I purchased them for insurance against financial disaster…and should that never occur in my lifetime, my daughter will have the benefit of insurance against disaster…and the benefit to me is that I  haven’t experienced nightmares in these many years.

Well I’m sure like Sinclair he barely has a subscriber base left, in addition to being pretty much wrong for the last six years.

The smartest guy in the room was the silver doctors client who dumped all his $3-4 million in silver bars and put it in Bitcoin, he’s probably made his money back already.

If I were smart enough to find something I thought would double or triple in a short period of time, I’d dump all my pm’s tomorrow. This investment thesis of waiting for a collapse hasn’t really worked out too well.

On Murphy….never heard such whining in my life.

He doesn’t see anything having changed with this two week rally – neither do I. It’s been a slow, capped, drift higher with zero confirmation from the shares. I stick to my prediction, we might drift toward 1280-90 in the next month and then get crushed right back to 1220 in a week.

Sri can’t offer any special insights, as we are in uncharted waters. Yes mkts have had cartels and heavy manipulation from insiders…the two big ones were the South American Coffee cartel in the late 70’s/80’s and the so called Tin Council on the LME in the 80’s as well….both blew up spectacularly .

But we have never had a Cartel that ran the World and made all the rules…well u did if u lived under Communism. So maybe that is the closest example. That took the thick end of 100 years to blow up, but it had no ‘democracy’ to worry about. I think and hope we elect ‘clean’ leaders, who will drain the swamp….but will that be before or after it all blows up financially ?????

The one thing we can be certain of, is one way mkts like we have now, breed complacency and corruption/greed, so u can bet inside these current mkts, that look like perfection for CB policies on the surface, is a morass of unexploded financial bombs, most of which we know nothing about. Think Bear triple leverage ETF’s, in the SM and no high vol bids !!!!!!

Crypto’s will be seen as a sign of how crazy participants were…that recent Ethereum theft is shocking, especially the pathetic response…geek gobbledegook from children….there is no security and can never be, if all the asset is, is a line of code. Somebody recently asked, what restrictions are there to their creation…answer of course is none…therefore what real value can they have…other than none.

Also the next financial crisis will take out the CB’s. …….their credibility is already under severe question by many.

Cheers

Maui stuff would require an interisland trip, with all the hazards that entails.   Down here in the Puna district they grow their own “Puna Butter”.   Plenty good horticulturists.  🙂