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Maya, thank you for the bit of Canadian Pacific Railway nostalgia at 2:38. Brings back pleasant memories.

Posted by Equisetum @ 21:57 on August 4, 2017  

Equisetum @ 20:33 Sluggish Under Priced Silver & Gold

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 21:30 on August 4, 2017  

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I think Buygold may have a good point at 18:51, namely that the ‘nuke’ and ‘war. and ‘environmental’ hype is meant in part to simply keep our attention diverted away from the economic and debt mess.  Cheers, all.

Comment:

Diversionary tactics I agree 100% on that. They’ve been doing that for decades. As for sluggish weak  Silver and Gold? I’m thinking, outside the USA, there my be a long term growing lack of discretionary income. (income remaining after deduction of taxes, other mandatory charges, and expenditure on necessary items)

We all know, prior to the meltdown in 2008, Americans were spending money hand over fist. Higher and higher credit limits. Huge home equity loans on expensive real estate. No money down for any and all on home purchases.

That real estate boom caused tons of money being spent in retail stores, Home Depot, Lows, Macys etc etc. And we all know, the more Money Americans spend, ends up in foreign countries that export to us. So I’m thinking maybe all the consumers in the rest of the world are following the Americans down.

Less discretionary income globally may have something to do with less spending for Silver and Gold. The newsletter I get often mentions deflation. Back in the 1970s they were blaming inflation on wages that were too high. Maybe they were right. Because these days they are trying to inflate and keep complaining about not enough “wage inflation”.

The idiots running this fake man made artificial global economy, will have to mandate by law, higher wages. The same way they mandated a 70% devaluation on the US Dollar in 1934 when they raised Gold to $34 from $20?

Thanks Moggy & Goldie

Posted by Ororeef @ 21:15 on August 4, 2017  

for your suggestions with nuropathy .WE got an excellent Orthopedic DR. ALL he does is shoulder replacment ..that ‘s it  ..! Thats really specializing ! isn’t it ?

He’s got his own team of assistants that he uses ..same team all the time….

It took 1  1/2 hours the whole thing  ..and she was up the next day ! Apparently theres some miniture surgery involved ..How you replace a whole joint with such small cutting is amazing !  They did ekg and blood tests prior to be safe… blood pressure 120/80 was good except the day she fell .it went high which was expected..The ortho DR. says he does two of these a day sometimes ..Some French company invented the joint and the DR made some suggestions and improved it..Apparently he’s widely recognized  authority in his speciality.

goldielocks (13:55), Buygold (18:51). My posting about “environmental risks” at

Posted by Equisetum @ 20:33 on August 4, 2017  

23:06 on 3 August was meant to be a bit tongue-in-cheek.  Some of the things I listed are not properly labelled as “environmental risks”, such as flooding or forest fires which are processes that occur repeatedly, often as natural processes, even if  sometimes human-caused.  Anyway, I am glad to add goldielocks’ suggestion of adding another to the list, namely the idea of  missile-borne electromagnetic pulses.

For me the one upside of all these “concerns” is that it takes my mind off the disgust I have with the perennial parade of PM-positive analysts on sites like King World News, SGT Reports, X-22, Zerohedge etc. etc.  The parade of commentators (you know all their names) seem to fall into two general camps: – those that say they didnt think the powers that be could suppress silver and gold prices as long as they have, but that price suppression is “nearly over”; and those that say precious metals when priced in fiat per ounce are going ‘to be explosive upwards’ but maybe not before they ‘first go down one more time’.  I think a fair number of these big-name PM commentators live in their world of investing in PM vehicles via private placements or insider trading on a substantial scale.  Their scale of investing is totally out of line with my limited retail investing involvement.  But I continue to listen to what they have to say.  And then I wait for something positive to happen in the fiat pricing of ounces of silver and gold.  And then I wait some more.

I think Buygold may have a good point at 18:51, namely that the ‘nuke’ and ‘war. and ‘environmental’ hype is meant in part to simply keep our attention diverted away from the economic and debt mess.  Cheers, all.    Equiz

 

buygold – They Play Both Sides

Posted by commish @ 19:52 on August 4, 2017  

COT Report, Goldie, Equisetum

Posted by Buygold @ 18:51 on August 4, 2017  

Well folks here’s the COT Report. I can say this without any doubt, the scum/criminal/neocon/banksters play both sides, THEY ARE THE FUNDS AND THEY ARE THE COMMERCIALS – no doubt IMHO. That being said, I think this report is a good barometer for future prices, if the commercials are adding shorts, go ahead and follow them to make money.

If anyone disagrees – make the case. Since all this happened Tuesday, they had the jump on Farmboy, but I think next week will be stellar for shorts – anything pm.

http://www.cftc.gov/dea/futures/deacmxlf.htm

Goldie – no doubt, the DC Scum is out to get Trump – the only question is whether they can oust him without a revolution. at this point, I’m hoping for the revolution before I can no longer fight. I can die or watch pm’s all day – dying is way easier. 🙂

Equisetum – I don’t know man, thanks for the link! I don’t know, I think the whole nuke and war thing is a farce to keep us distracted from the economic collapse, but hey, I think nukes might make gold go up for a day or two.

NASA another false and fake Icon

Posted by Auandag @ 15:25 on August 4, 2017  

Equiz

Posted by goldielocks @ 13:55 on August 4, 2017  

Your probably aware but if nukes start flying over Ca. you might also prepare for a EMP.
I have to agree with Armstrong about Media, not just media through, but collusion with DNC and media about the Russian conspiracy because they lost the election is going to cause WW111.
That they are going to alienate Russia where any negotiations about Korea at a time like this are now off the table because these swamp creatures are mad Hillary lost. He said that Europe may have no choice but side with Russia. Well you’ll know who to blame and they’ll have well stocked bunkers to run and hide maybe hoping when they get out they can resume power since they been in so long they think they own the place while they breach their duty, … NOT !!!

Ororeef

Posted by goldielocks @ 13:23 on August 4, 2017  

Maybe your wife would benefit from AFO’s. Light weight braces that she fit inside her shoes that would help her walk better. Don’t settle for any kind and no cheap plastic as potential pressure areas. Open heal type and lose shoes not to tight for circulation reasons. It may help her drive again if she can practice putting her whole foot down on a pedal. Like stationary bike riding might help muscles as well as ward off atrophy from none use of groups of muscles because of neuropathy. House should be adjusted to there are no trip hazards. No blocked paths, no slip hazards since she can’t catch with other foot. Also if she does fall to use inside of arm or if backward arms out to brace backward with head up not to stiffen up arm to brace or use her elbow because that will cause wrist elbow and shoulder injuries. Weight bearing exercises protien drinks only when exercising and calcium during this time will help strenghten bones and musles putting less stress on joints as well.

Farmboy

Posted by goldielocks @ 13:06 on August 4, 2017  

Justice is a party jumper so caution to why.
It’s not immediately clear why Justice opted to switch parties. In their statement, the Democratic Governors Association suggested the move was purely out of self-interest, with a possible financial motive.

Russian deal with a Democrat?

“As Republicans have repeatedly said, Jim Justice owes millions of dollars in unpaid company taxes, after a deal with a Russian coal company.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/08/west-virginia-governor-jim-justice-trump-rally/535890/

Nothin happening with gold-and I’m TARRED of belly aching about it-So might as well read Kunstler….

Posted by Richard640 @ 11:59 on August 4, 2017  

 


Russia hysteria has become a full-blown national psychosis at a moment in history when a separate array of troubles poses the real threat to America’s well-being. Most of these have to do with the country’s swan dive into bankruptcy, but meeting them honestly would force uncomfortable choices on the grifters and caitiffs in congress. Meanwhile, the Treasury Dept is burning through its dwindling cash reserves, and all government activities will face a shutdown at the end of the summer unless congress votes to raise the debt ceiling — which may be way harder than passing the stupid Russia sanctions bill.

That bill, vaingloriously called The Countering America’s Adversaries Through Sanctions Act will only blow up in America’s face. This country’s actual trade with Russia is negligible, but the bill aims to interrupt and punish Europe’s trade, centering on oil and natural gas, which they need desperately. Mainly, the US bill seeks to interrupt a gas pipeline under the Baltic Sea that would bypass several of the Baltic Nations currently being used by America — under the NATO banner — as staging areas for unnecessary and provocative war games on Russia’s borders.

Germany is certain to not stand for it, and like it or not, they are the straw that stirs the European drink. The sanctions pretend to seek to isolate Russia, but the effect will only be to isolate the United States. Europe will laugh at the measure as impinging on their sovereign prerogatives to trade as they please. And Russia can turn around and sell all the natural gas it wants to customers in Asia. Left undiscussed in the moronic American media is the American gas industry’s hidden role in pushing the sanctions so it can sell liquefied gas overseas — which would only end up raising the price for American gas customers to heat their homes.

The stupid bill pretends to be a lever for improving relations between the US and Russia, but is actually designed to make relations much worse. In the meantime, the US Deep State military and intelligence matrix is engineering new crises and confrontations for absolutely no good reason. For instance, shoveling arms to Ukraine so it can step up conflict in the eastern Donbass region bordering Russia. The sanctions bill will also make it impossible for the US and Russia to coordinate an end to the conflict in Syria. Anyway, Deep State strategists in the State, Defense, and Intel departments are tacitly determined to create another failed state by insuring continuing chaos there.

Another interesting unanticipated consequence of the sanctions bill is that it will only intensify Russia’s effort, already well underway, to provide for itself many of the products it currently imports. Import replacement, as the process is called, is actually the same dynamic that led to the rise of the USA as a great industrial power in the 19th century, so the bill only prompts Russia to diversify and strengthen its economy.

So what exactly was Mr. Trump thinking when he signed the “deeply flawed” (his words) Russian Sanctions bill coughed up like a hairball by congress? It’s a ridiculous piece of legislation from any angle. It limits the president’s own established prerogatives for negotiating with foreign nations (probably unconstitutionally), and will only provoke economic warfare (at least) against the US that can easily lead to shattering global trade relations entirely. Some observers say he had to sign it because the vote for it in congress was so overwhelming (419 to 3) that they would only override a Trump veto. But the veto would have had, at least, symbolic value in the Jacksonian spirit that Trump pretended to want to emulate at the outset of his term. Perhaps he sees the Deep State endgame and is tired of resisting.

On the home front, Russia paranoia is at the center of Robert Mueller’s intensifying probe of Trump and his political associates as he calls a federal grand jury to hear testimony — which implies that he some lined up. This opens up all kinds of opportunities for prosecutorial mischief, for instance going after every business transaction Trump made as a private citizen before he ran for president, and coercing Trump intimates into immunization deals in exchange for testimony, real or cooked-up, to enable the establishment’s ultimate goal of shoving Trump out.

The “Russian meddling in our election” story hasn’t produced any credible evidence after a full year — and speaking to foreign diplomats is not a crime — but the Russian meddling juggernaut rolls on perfectly well, and might accomplish its ends, without it. Just repeating “Russian meddling” five thousand times on CNN has surely induced many poorly-informed citizens to believe that Russia changed the numbers in American voting machines though, in fact, voting machines are not connected to the Internet.

All of this psychotic political behavior screams for the rise of a new party, or more than one new party, composed of men and women who have not lost their minds. I’m sure they’re out there. Plenty of traces on the Internet attest to the existence of a higher and better political consciousness in this country. It just hasn’t found a way to congeal. Yet.

Richard 8:11

Posted by goldielocks @ 11:54 on August 4, 2017  

I agree but can’t say the same for the GOP.
As one constituent summed it up and consolidated ..

Benghazi, no grand jury as well as
Clinton foundation,
emailgate,
Billions transferred in middle of night to terrorist sponsors of the world,
Fast and furious gun running,
DNC insiders and witnesses suicided or murdered epidemic,
DNC and media collusion during 2016 elections,
Political espionage using spying agencies of the United States,
Illegal unmasking of Americans by US spy agencies for political advantage, and no grand jury.
After two in a half years and billions of dollars trying to get dirt- and investigating in his life and still not one shred of evidence that Russia had anything to do with the results of the 2016 election— grand jury paneled.

eeos – yup

Posted by Buygold @ 11:42 on August 4, 2017  

as long as there is a paper market and fiat currencies, this is a losing battle. Now bitcoin

 

 

ssdd

Posted by eeos @ 10:54 on August 4, 2017  

silver kicked and stomped on. hopeless crap

Ororeef

Posted by Moggy @ 10:26 on August 4, 2017  

I’m sorry to hear about your wife’s misfortunes.  The following contains some information that may be of assistance.  In particular, taking the spectrum of B Vitamins is crucial in stopping the progress of nerve damage, most especially Vitamins B-6 and B-12.  If it were me, I would take what is called B-50 twice daily and additional supplements of B-6 and B-12.  Although there is a product called B-100, it would not work as well as most of the vitamins would merely be flushed out of the body…too much at once.

https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/diabetic-neuropathy-treatment.html

 

R640

Posted by Buygold @ 10:14 on August 4, 2017  

The stock market isn’t going down. Too many bank stocks that love higher rates. Besides, if it did the entire pm sector would get crushed even worse.

USD bears getting squeezed bigly.

 

Stow HIGH In Transit ! Who Knew ? If it comes from DC stow it Real HIGH !

Posted by Ororeef @ 10:08 on August 4, 2017  

Manure…

Interesting fact about Manure: In the 16th and 17th centuries, everything for export had to be transported by ship.

It was also before the invention of commercial fertilizers, so large shipments of manure were quite common. It was shipped dry, because in dry form it weighed a lot less than when wet, but once water (at sea) hit it, not only did it become heavier, but the process of fermentation began again, of which a by-product is methane gas.

As the stuff was stored below decks in bundles – you can imagine what could (and did) happen. Methane began to build up below decks and the first time someone came below at night with a lantern, BOOOOM! Several ships were destroyed in this manner before it was determined just what was happening.

After that, the bundles of manure were always stamped with the instruction Stow High In Transit, which meant for the sailors to stow it high enough off the lower decks so that any water that came into the hold would not touch this “volatile” cargo and start the production of methane.

Thus, evolved the term ‘SHIT’, (Stow High In Transit) which has come down through the centuries and is in use to this very day.

You probably did not know the true history of this word. Neither did I. I had always thought it was a golf term.ho

Buygold–yeah, I hear ya. When $ futures were down 1000 bps gold was up and down

Posted by Richard640 @ 10:06 on August 4, 2017  

a few bucks that day. As I write $ fyts. are up 533bps and G&S het wasted. Let’s see if the stock indexes are allowed to go red for 3 minutes before they rebound.

Looks like the EEEEEEEEEE-vil ones are making hay while the sun shines…selling really

Posted by Richard640 @ 10:00 on August 4, 2017  

picking up…those looking for a bottom in the dollar and a multi-month rally haven’t got much satisfaction so far. The $ is only modestly up…it would be highly unusual for G&S to come back today but stocks look like they want to roll over [the impossible]…or, at least, give up gains [the probable].

http://futures.tradingcharts.com/marketquotes/DX.html

[$ index futures]

Wash, rinse, repeat

Posted by deer79 @ 9:59 on August 4, 2017  

Why change anything if you’re the cretins? It’s been working for 9+ years now. Sure is discouraging to say the least.

There you go R640

Posted by Buygold @ 9:59 on August 4, 2017  

There’s your last best buying opportunity on the jobs report. Step right up. Won’t get another opportunity like this until at least Monday.

Silver down 2% on its’ way to whatever the last flash crash number was around $14

I give up

The US economy

Posted by Ororeef @ 9:46 on August 4, 2017  

has NO engine ..its on a glide Path to some kind of Landing ……clear the runway  ..ready the emergency services …just in case !  The Captain is as good as SULLY was ,but his options are just as limited..!    keep ready cash ,Gold ,FOOD Insurance, Home medical Supplies!  Keep good relations with friends ,relatives ..stay well !

Havent posted

Posted by Ororeef @ 9:29 on August 4, 2017  

much lately ..the wife fell back on the jul14th and just had a new shoulder joint replacement done, arm broke up near the shoulder joint the ortho Dr. put a reverse action joint in and she came home yesterday.

Now the hard part starts ….She has neuroropathy in her feet which is the reason she fell to start with .no feeling in one foot diabetic nerve damage ..She seems to be in good spirits .Its the second time she broke an arm in two years ..same reason..She stopped driving last year because she couldent feel the brake petal.

One thing leads to another dosent it..!

Trump Last Night

Posted by Farmboy @ 9:14 on August 4, 2017  

Got back in town last night just in time to throw my bags on the kitchen floor and watch Trump Live in Va. Great stuff. Watching the Govenor of Va switch from being a Democrat to Republican was a highlight. Here is a link to watch, Trump’s speech starts around the 4hrs 30 min mark.

http://rsbn.tv/watch-president-trump-holds-rally-in-huntington-wv-live-stream-8317/

Good Morning Oasis ! No Fishing Maya, But Did Spend a Few Days At the Beach. :)

Posted by Farmboy @ 8:39 on August 4, 2017  

Spent a few days with a buddy who is fighting cancer. He wanted to hook up at the beach for a few days inbetween the chemo and radiation treatments. Tough old buzzard. Brought his guitar so while there was no fishing this time, there was plenty of good times making memories. And they say ya cant make gold. 🙂

Back to the PM pits. Have not a clue what this day has in store. Fridays are not usually kind to the likes of us, but ya never know.

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