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middlecreek,

Posted by treefrog @ 23:54 on September 19, 2017  

don’t be convinced about oklanoma until you’ve looked at the big bend of florida.  the northern tier of counties between the appalachicola and the suwanee rivers.  rolling hills, cattle and woodland.  some corn-peanut-soybean farming.  we are in a blind corner of the gulf so that to get to us, hurricanes have to cross over land (and lose most of their strength.)

climate is much like you are used to in southeast texas.  warm summers, long springs and falls, mild winters.  fifty to sixty inches of rain annually, a dusting of snow every couple decades.  much of the area (outside leon county) is thinly populated and rural.  my county (jefferson) has no traffic lights!  the only intersection we have that would warrant one has a roundabout with a courthouse in the center.  the tourist and retiree infested areas are a couple hundred miles to the south and east.  no state income tax.

about twenty or thirty miles north of the coast there is the cody escarpment.  land south of that is low lying, flat, and sandy (paleo beach).  north of the escarpment, there is 100′ to 300′ elevation.

oklahoma has SNOW!  i spent five years as a small child in canada.  i have kept a low opinion of that white stuff ever since.

Thanks all!!!

Posted by Middlecreek @ 23:17 on September 19, 2017  

Your suggestions and well wishes are gratefully received.  These hurricanes sure are good for building supply business.  Unbelievable numbers of people at Home Depot today.  Flooring, sheetrock, wainscot, tools, etc, are huge sellers.  It’s leaving the stores as fast as trucks get unloaded.  Big money changing hands.  Suppliers and contractors raking it in.  Fema helps the lower income and homeless eventually.  For most part, they offer low interest loans through SBA programs.  If you have decent income they don’t have much to offer.  Most people in my area had no flood insurance.  It never flooded like this in many of the hardest hit areas.  Very unnatural amount of rain in short period.  I had 32 measured inches in three days.  Then the storm stalled and dropped another 20 to 30 inches  from one evening till the next morning about 7am.  Truly unbelievable rainfall.  Between 50 and 60 inches total. Some say 62 measured.  I lost track during the last night.  Finally fell to sleep near midnight.  Woke at 3am with daughter calling concerned.  Watched water rise two more feet between 3am and daylight with nonstop pounding rain.  Not storm surge.  Just rain so hard and so long it could not run off.  We have had a wet summer and ground was already saturated.  Very few people in my immediate area have flood insurance.  Our homeowners policies won’t cover flood damage.  Whole area has taken a big hit again.  Once retired I’m leaving the area.  Had enough.  Higher ground in my future.  Family on Moms side settled here in late 1800’s.  We have our own family cemetery named after my great grand mother.  Hard to leave deep roots.  But the frequency and power of these storms make it hard to stay comfortable.   I could stand to see some minors run and run hard about now.  Would really help put a smile on me.  Or silver.  Aren’t we about due for for a run to new highs?  I need enough grass to run about a hundred head of cattle.  Southeast Oklahoma near Ozarks looks about right.  300 acres of rolling hills backed up to timber country with a creek, a comfortable home or two and a few barns and a shop.  Run silver run.  I dare you.

Re Story by Bill Holter Cryptocurrencies And Avoiding The “Poof Moment”…

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 21:53 on September 19, 2017  
Hi Bill, remember me? Mr. Copper?
I just read your article and offering one of my thoughts re bitcoin etc. Below are two parts of your story that brought back old memories, and my suspicions, regarding “POOF” gone in a flash.
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Your parts:
“The real dangers are several and basically involve a “poof” moment that does not exist with gold or silver. When I say “poof”, I am talking about “poof, it’s gone!”. Do not say this is impossible because it is not.
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Suffice it to say, in the case of Bitcoin, no one even knows who its creator Satoshi is, how does anyone know he did not install a backdoor when he launched it? It does make sense that the programmer has a back door doesn’t it?”
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Comment:
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Briefly. Back in the later part of 1970s ’77 ’78 ’79 when Silver was climbing straight up, like in the $4 to $48 range. My friend and I had adds in the local papers, “Silver coins for sale” and “silver coins wanted”.
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On the phone, many of the buyers were very open, for one example….”I have a deli, and cash, and I want to buy $100k worth of coins” Naturally we were just dabbling with buys and sales in the $100s to $2,000 range, not tens of thousands.
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When Silver sucked in all that unreported under ground cash, and then crashed, it took all the away, from thousands of small businesses, their unreported income. My thoughts were back then, the Banks increase the money supply excessively, with loans etc, and then take in or evaporate excessive funds from the  tax evaders, and punish them. I assumed TPTB allowed that run up, and KNEW what would happen. Raised rates and killed all the “private” unreported inflation hedges.
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So this Bitcoin thing may have the same purpose, and the banks, CIA or gov’t itself may have been the actual creator on Bitcoin. They will collapse the thing when they feel the time is RIPE.

Hum Witchful thinking

Posted by goldielocks @ 21:42 on September 19, 2017  

She’s really just pro illegal immigration. She doesn’t even know what a newt is which isn’t a actual animal but a certain seed. Witch casting spells on Trump.
http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/09/19/witches-cast-spells-president-donald-trump-and-talks-tucker-carlson

Precious Metals Summit Beaver Creek

Posted by ipso facto @ 20:11 on September 19, 2017  

http://www.gowebcasting.com/conferences/2017/09/18/precious-metals-summit/day/2

Just a couple more months…

Posted by Buygold @ 18:33 on September 19, 2017  

Putin Orders End To US Dollar Trade At Russian Seaports

Whether in response to rising scorching tensions with the US, or simply to provide support for the ruble, on Tuesday Russian President Vladimir Putin instructed the government to approve legislation making the ruble the main currency of exchange at all Russian seaports by next year, the Kremlin website reported.

silver and gold…

Posted by treefrog @ 15:52 on September 19, 2017  

have been doing pretty well since lunchtime.  did the manipulator thugs have too many martinis and forget to go back to their desks?

re Government is all about CONTROL ! If You LET them.

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 13:54 on September 19, 2017  

After the 2008 meltdown it became obvious that the “gov’t” that screwed the USA decided to help restore the US economy, for their own good. Its very important for big global corporations and foreign nations, to have an economically strong American consumer and tax payers.

So maybe its get even time. Don’t do what they want us to do. Don’t raise the debt limit, and don’t buy and hire American.

Ororeef @ 12:58

Posted by ipso facto @ 13:52 on September 19, 2017  

I think the electrodes inside Maxine’s head are starting to short out! 🙂

Alex Valdor @ 12:27

Posted by ipso facto @ 13:51 on September 19, 2017  

Thanks for the Moggy update. Glad to hear that she is OK.

re Government is all about CONTROL ! If You LET them.

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 13:39 on September 19, 2017  

The people could have screwed and stymied the gov’t by simply rejecting and refusing to buy imports after 1975. Ever watch old movies? And see the streets filled with many various American made cars? That’s when we lived good. Wives not working. One household income.

Its too late now to resist. In fact, if you wanted to stymie and screw the Gov’t these days, boycott American made products and increase your buying of imports. And if you have employees? Give them pay cuts. Take vacations overseas.

re Government is all about CONTROL !

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 13:16 on September 19, 2017  

The “gov’t” of by and for global corporations, with phony exchange rates, and high taxes on domestic business operations, forced jobs and money to go off shore, and forced Americans to buy imports, and screw their own country.

SIMPLE. If you had a choice, and bought the import, YOU contributed to the demise or lower living standards of the USA.

Was checking gold stocks

Posted by goldielocks @ 13:13 on September 19, 2017  

Things really strange right now. We got gold bear stocks looking like a reverse HS trying to move up while gold has broken out of down trend.checked some chartist and the same.Time to keep a eye on them.. Like.. From different chartist.
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Alex Moggy

Posted by goldielocks @ 13:06 on September 19, 2017  

I was wondering about her if she was affected because we haven’t heard from her since then and she mentioned she was under warning. It’s not like we can just drive over and check on her. I’m glad she’s okay and know she is prepared. Next time hope she can get a solar generator or something but won’t help towers. Hope she has close neighbors.

ipso facto @ 10:47 on September 19, 2017

Posted by Ororeef @ 12:58 on September 19, 2017  

That is sooo FUNNY  because its SOOO ignorant    ..Maxine is ignorant and PROUD of it !  hehe

It makes you wonder about the election process and democracy …thats why the Founders never gave us a Democracy and only land owners were allowed to vote !

They had something to lose if Government failed !  If you put people in charge that have nothing to lose they simply vote themselves what you got..   You are legalizing theft !

Franklyn said “you got a Republic ,if you can keep it”

Its all about Control !

Posted by Ororeef @ 12:47 on September 19, 2017  
Keep yor eye on BIT COIN ..it leads the Gold Price.

Europe is trying to OUTLAW bit coin as a currency …they cant control anything if the public goes to bit coin. They cant even TAX it….!

screw the Banksters they will be out of business…

The public is FED up with the BANKS !  SO……they get it OUTLAWED !   and the PUBLIC is left with GOLD again as their only protection against the BANKSTERS .

They are so afraid of BIT COINS they would rather have the  public in gold …..Its better the devil you know than the one you dont know !    They can influence Gold ,they cant influence BIT COIN so they try to OUTLAW it…..BIT COIN will go underground !  Its already too big to stop…billions and billions are already in bit coin .Its like making whiskey illegal it aint gonna work ,it just drives the public out of Government control and into the hands of moonshiners..

Government is all about CONTROL !

Had a note from Moggy ( from the nearby library )

Posted by Alex Valdor @ 12:27 on September 19, 2017  

A week after Irma , she and her cat are still without Internet access at their home . Two cell towers destroyed and lots of other issues for communication . Moggy and cat were ‘traumatized’ , but okay . I thought the group here would like to know that she is safe .

Treefrog

Posted by goldielocks @ 11:56 on September 19, 2017  

That’s good to know about the bleach not working. Years ago as a visiting nurse there was a patient with breathing problems getting worse. I don’t just check the patient but environment. I noticed there was a musty moldy type smell in his room and told them I’m even reacting to it. We don’t have too much of a problem due to the dry climate but living on the beach before I recognized it right away.
Well next day I came back one of the walls was taken apart and there was mold in it and also behind a dresser on the dresser. The air conditioner was leaking through the wall and things were starting to mold. I think they used a bleach solution and got rid of the dresser. Although the patient no longer having breathing problems.

Middlecreek

Posted by goldielocks @ 11:48 on September 19, 2017  

When all your nearby family is affected it just makes it worse.
Bad thing is something’s are just irreplaceable, good thing is that you can maybe make it better or suit your needs of now.

I looked up FEMA for you and found this. I noticed your country, Orange is on the list for disaster assistance. You should take it.
http://wfla.com/2017/09/15/a-guide-to-fema-aide-for-hurricane-irma-victims/

treefrog @ 11:25

Posted by ipso facto @ 11:39 on September 19, 2017  

I don’t think they’re getting in the EU anytime soon. 🙂

I question whether or not they should still be in Nato?

“western terminus for the silk road”

We’ll see. Certainly a possibility.

Auandag

Posted by Maddog @ 11:28 on September 19, 2017  

Re Swaps

I would argue the swaps do indeed satisfy real far eastern demand, which u could/can see when the London morning mkt is strong, as it was earlier this year. Later in the day u get the Crimex dumping that caps/knocks prices down.

That Crimex selling can go on forever, as I believe the positions are swapped out to LBMA forwards…ie the scum Crimex sell Dec contracts, then later buys the Dec contracts back and sells LBMA forwards simultaneously…those LBMA fwds then sit forever on the Scum/Dealer books and are not margined.

Why sell Crimex, when they cud just sell LBMA fwds…Crimex is v public…easy to see and therefore the selling is very scary to longs.

Where I see their great weakness is the ridiculous heights they are sending the Worlds SM’s to, how low they are pushing Bond rates and how relatively low they have held PM’s. The SM has to be riddled with crowded trades, especially short volatility ones…at some point the SM will crater, the CB’s will not be able to help, as rates are still @ zero…all they can do is print…which will blow up the bond mkts and PM’s will go ape….plus of course we will find out there is no metal in all the ETF’s.

ipso, re: 10:56

Posted by treefrog @ 11:25 on September 19, 2017  

more and more, it looks like turkey will become a major western terminus for the silk road –  a port on the med, and a toehold in southern europe.

Turkey’s new BFF

Posted by ipso facto @ 10:56 on September 19, 2017  

Turkey Faces Threats For Inking Landmark Arms Deal With Russia

The long awaited deal has taken place. A deposit has already been paid. Turkey has finally signed the $2.5bn (£1.9bn) contract with Russia to buy S-400 advanced missile defense system. With a range of 400 kilometers (248 miles), the system can shoot down up to 80 targets simultaneously, aiming two missiles at each one, at an altitude of up to 30 km.

The system is not operationally compatible with the systems used by NATO countries, which gives Turkey a military capacity independent of the alliance. NATO commanders will not have control over it. The identification friend or foe (IFF) equipment won’t prevent Turkey from using it against NATO aircraft and missiles. Reaching full operational capability will require Russian personnel to be stationed in Turkey on advice, assistance and training missions.

The technology transfer component of the S-400 deal is especially important as it would allow Turkey to rapidly expand domestic defense industry with Russia’s help. Russia would supply two batteries and help Ankara build two more such systems. A few years ago, the US refused to let Turkey produce Patriot air defense systems on its soil and the deal was off.

Ankara does not have industrial infrastructure to produce air defense systems. Russian specialists will have to come and build it from scratch. As a result, Russia will get access to the defense infrastructure of a NATO member state. The agreement to build the Akkuyu nuclear power plant in Turkey, which is to be launched by 2023, is another example of fruitful economic cooperation.

more http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-09-18/turkey-faces-threats-inking-landmark-arms-deal-russia

Auandag @ 10:33

Posted by ipso facto @ 10:49 on September 19, 2017  

In a couple of months?

LOL

Posted by ipso facto @ 10:47 on September 19, 2017  

“My fear is that if North Korea nukes us, Trump gonna get us into a war”!
—US Rep Maxine Waters

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