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Posted by goldielocks @ 23:53 on February 19, 2018  

Orban is one of the few leaders that see the “reality” of what’s going in front of them, over the PC blanket.

“Christianity Is Europe’s Last Hope” – Hungary’s Orban Calls For Global Anti-Migrant Alliance

Posted by Richard640 @ 23:16 on February 19, 2018  

Hungarian leader Viktor Orbán called yesterday (18 February) for a global alliance against migration as his right-wing populist Fidesz party began campaigning for an 8 April election in which it is expected to win a third consecutive landslide victory.
Popular at home but increasingly at odds politically and economically with mainstream European Union peers,  EURACTIV reports Orbán has thrived on external controversy, including repeated clashes with Brussels and lately the United Nations.
Those conflicts, mostly centred on migration since people fleeing war and poverty in the Middle East and Africa flooded into Europe in 2015, have intensified as the elections approach and Orbán poses as a saviour of Europe’s Christian nations.
With mass immigration, especially from Africa, “our worst nightmares can come true. The West falls as it fails to see Europe being overrun.”
Orbán is widely credited for reversing an economic slump in Hungary and controlling its public finances, culminating in a return to investment-grade for its debt, which was cut to ‘junk’ during the 2008 global economic crisis.
To achieve that and hold onto power the prime minister, 54, has used methods that critics have called authoritarian, and picked fights with EU partners, especially in the West. Eastern leaders, most notably in Poland, have followed his lead.
But migration dominates his agenda now.
Orbán said on Sunday that Europe faces a critical fissure between nation states of the East and the West, which he called an “immigrant zone, a mixed population world that heads in a direction different from ours”.

Memory Lane Last One, Titled be me as “ZENO nut” from 12/4/02

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 22:39 on February 19, 2018  

Da Unthinkable 0% INTEREST And Contango? Haven’t The CBs Already Forewarn?

(zeno451) Dec 04, 14:27

Who is bickering in Barricks boardroom? And Why? It is not only the reservations about the limited supply that the European Central Bank is putting forward but the PROSPECT OF NEGATIVE CONTANGO that may be troubling everyone in the industry. Why on earth would the men in control of the Fed even raise the possibility of 0% interest rates if it wasn’t seriously being considered. So not only the European central Bank having trouble with offloading of gold under the terms of any extension of the Washington Accord, but the Dark Star in the gold market America too is pro

 

(zeno451) Dec 04, 14:27

(Mr.Copper) Dec 04, 15:00

Part of post…

“Why on earth would the men in control of

the Fed even raise the possibility of 0% interest rates

if it wasn’t seriously being considered.”

 

Ans….To through us off balance? Are they ever honest and forthright? They do like to use psycology on us.

It wouldn’t surprise me one bit if rates start trending up. They’ve been going down since the 1980 peak.

 

Mr. Copper

(zeno451) Dec 04, 15:34

Ans….To through us off balance? Are

they ever honest and forthright? They do

like to use psycology on us.

It wouldn’t surprise me one bit if

rates start trending up. They’ve been

going down since the 1980 peak.-Mr Copper

********

Rates go up? Not likely. That might heh heh mean the Consumer credit and real estate bubbles could heh heh also burst too huh?

I would rather argue that the Fed has lost complete control and the proponents of the greater crater theory of central banking are throwing out all the stops. The Fed is refusing to take responsibility for its actions. Admitting there is a problem means they must take responsibility for gutting the American econonomy and the American way of life.

The politiicians don’t have a clue. Since they collectively sang God Bless America on the steps of the Capitol Building the financier of the ENRON CHOIR has pulled the plug on their political donations. One would have thought the elections had cleansed them of the responsibility for their cupidity and negligence but they still are standing idly by as Greenspan pulls all the levers. …

 

@(zeno451) Dec 04, 15:34 Rates

(Mr.Copper) Dec 04, 16:24

Market letter I get, said rates my go up, figuring in hard times lenders (bond buyers?) would want more to cover the increased risk.

Fed may be forced to raise rates if metals start climbing too steep. They did that as gold went up thru the 70s’ until 21% (kemo theropy) killed the party

 

Mr. Copper

(zeno451) Dec 04, 16:30

You mean to say rising interest rates wouldn’t collapse the real estate and consumer credit bubbles? Think? Gold even with the gold derivative trade added into it is a much smaller problem than the combined forces of the rela estate and consumer credit bubble. I’ve said all I’m going to say on this subject. As You will shortly see I’m doing my own thing………..

 

(zeno451) Dec 04, 16:30

(Mr.Copper) Dec 04, 16:51

“You mean to say rising interest rates wouldn’t collapse the real estate and consumer credit bubbles?”

Ans. I certainly did not say that. I agree about the ramifications.:) Even a 5 year old knows what rising rates would do. I only said they may go up.

 

Mr. Copper

(zeno451) Dec 04, 17:16

You implied that the central banks might be throwing us a curveball on interest rates. You said the 0% talk may be a mask for their intention to raise interest rates. EVEN A 5 YEAR OLD knows you were floating hooey. Negative Contango is being discussed by the central bank. That is good for gold. Your obvious effort to mislead everyone and change the topic speaks to your own bias. Get lost.

 

zeno451

(knicksfan2) Dec 04, 17:32

Mr. Copper was trying to agree with you. Perhaps you should loosen the helmet strap, and relax. No need to look for problems under rocks that don’t exist..

 

Poor Zeno…. Tho probably older than 5, he still has not learned that

(Idaho_Tom) Dec 04, 18:00

the Fed does not set interest rates, Mr Market does. The Fed just likes to take the credit, and Zeno echos their hubris.

 

@Mr.Copper

(goldhorizon) Dec 04, 18:35

Very valid proposal about possible raising of rates. One of the central theses of the gold bull consensus has been the position of the FED between a rock and a hard place. Raising rates is just as good for gold as doing nothing or lowering them. Your contributions here rank highly with the forum, as you know. Where is the site censor today?

 

GoldHorizen

(zeno451) Dec 04, 21:02

Don’t bother appealing to the censors. I will voluntarily stop posting on this message board for a few days. I hope you are copesthetic with my decision. Maybe you should aim at the posters who were calling me a crackhead and a meth addict as well huh? Why don’t you?

 

Memory Lane October 22 2007 BEFORE the Summer 2008 Crash

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 22:31 on February 19, 2018  

Note: @Webmaster, e-mail me if I’m posting Too Much. M/C

Copperman, good morning…

(Trader_vic) Oct 22, 11:57

As far as the small retail investors, If they’re smart, they will be sitting on the sidelines looking for the next entry point in the gold market… I’m looking for a short pullback in here with the dollar rising to around 79-80, then literally a collapse in the dollar down to 76 or lower…

This should take gold to new highs and a start of the rocket ship up… At this point, we have to confirm the breakout back test before we go anywhere and this is what we are doing right now… So we should see a few more days of pain in there and then, “To the moon Alice, to the moon!”…

The idiots on Wall Street and in the gov’t are trying to stabilize a market that has NO FLOOR to it… That’s because they have lost control of the credit markets and they don’t know how much is unaccounted for in the SIV’s and worldwide hedge funds that are uncontrolled… This is a game of lier’s poker, where the banks are lying to everyone…

UNTIL, they have to report 4th Qtr earnings (fully audited!) and signed off by their EXTERNAL AUDITORS! These guys aren’t going to be caught in the same game that the Enron auditors were… And they are taking a tough stance against irregularities in the bank’s accounting practices… It’s also a game of chicken, such as what we have just seen, who can post the least losses to the press on “unaudited” results…

So, the shit has not yet hit the fan, and by that time, you will get the REAL kicker… The rating services will once again DOWNGRADE THE CMO, CLO, AND ALL THE OTHER DERIVATIVE PAPER NOW ON THE STREET… SO THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING OF THE REAL DOWN DRAFT TO COME…

 

@TraderVic

(Mr.Copper) Oct 22, 12:36

Nice to hear from you my friend. 🙂 I think you’re exactly right on all that. A dollar bounce certainly is understandable by now.

Even I was surprised at how fast it got so low. Basically the Dollar “got it”, harder and faster.

Re your “they are taking a tough stance against irregularities”. I’m seeing crack downs in many areas. Major reversals all over the place.

Liberalism and permissiveness, and making believe and all the artificial facts and figures, and all the lying has all caught up to them.

Another big old problem trend I’ve noticed that lead to today.

When filling important positions in high level jobs, rather than focusing on the best experienced in the total population, they focused mainly on the best experienced minorities. Limiting gross selection.

A similar situation, is the US economy is STOPPING, and rather than discuss economic problems, these media quacks are concerned environmental problems.

Their fairy tail goody two shoes mentality has dominated things for too long. Its over for them. Practicality now has to push them dreamers aside so we can get back to business.

They, the emotionals, had their chance for 50 years, and naturally, the results are revolting.

The economy will now evolve into a standardized monetary system with monetary military type discipline to get back on track.

The transition is going to be rough though, like a bypass operation. 🙂 The “emotionals” have clogged the arteries. 🙂

I remember discussing economic problems with my brother one night, and his wife seriously said…”Can’t they just print the money”?

Well that’s the type who have been running the US economy. My sister-in-law type in high places. 🙂

 

Copper

(raptured) Oct 22, 13:08

AGREE ! AGREE !

And I have a brother-in-law like your sister-in-law.

“Just print some more” Of course they are up to there eye balls in dept too.

Me – I owe no body nothing and I have lots of these round, shinny gold and silver things. They think I have wasted my money – lol

 

 

@Son_of_Benson 12:08

(Mr.Copper) Oct 22, 13:17

Hi Benny, re your:

“The unexpected was that they have become “beggars to their own demise” via the SIV fund virus.” and your

“the masses only care about food, shelter, and gasoline for the car…because they are “hand to mouth”.

The bottom line is the wherewithal of the people. The ability to pay bills and have some money left over for a rainy day.

The private sector people have been shouldering the entire load of crap, and have been abused, and now its pay back time. Or rather lack of pay back. 🙂

The US producers and miners have also been abused for YEARS, with low prices, and its payback time with shortages of Metals, and Food, and Oil.

The strong dollar idiots got their way. They prematurely fed millions of US dollars to “stray cats”, around the world,

and now have millions more stray cats (dependents)while the ability of the US private sector to provide is over.

If because of fiat money that loses value, they need to feed poverty, they will naturally get more poverty. Now coming to a neighborhood near you. 🙂

TraderVic

(Mr.Copper) Oct 22, 13:43

Re your:

“That’s because they have lost control of the credit markets”

I believe that’s what they say on financial media? I think they are purposly using the wrong “jargon” when they refer to “credit markets”.

The credit markets are fine. Imo they lost control of the debtors when they stopped paying. They refuse to acknowledge a waning debtor that was practically FORCED to borrow.

Their fancy misleading words are meaningless to me.

@Vronsky re 14:47 Rates

(Mr.Copper) Oct 22, 15:17

Pretty neat chart view you posted there. My guess is they’ll drop the rates twice as fast as they rose them. Two years up one year down, if not faster.

Simply because they should not have raised them in the first place, and their problems are far worse now. I wouldn’t be surprised to see them drop rates back to 1.5% in a year.

It was always my hunch that the only reason for raising them, was to fool the markets into thinking the economy was strong enough to do so.

The alleged recovery they kept implying, was just an artificial “home depot boom”. No meat.

And the second reason for the hikes was, they would have some reserve points built up for emergency drop for psychological affect later. And here we are, later.

They just recently got hit in their face with that.

 

 

 

Mr. Copper–Trader Vic

Posted by amals @ 22:27 on February 19, 2018  

Yeah, I remember him, too.  I recall wondering if he was Trader Vic Sperandeo, whose book I had read and liked.  He, pittrader, and a few others with lots of real-life trading experience were always good to read.  Thanks for posting.

Memory Lane Trader Vic’s post of 2006 Aug 22, 15:25

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 22:15 on February 19, 2018  

And these two paragraphs were excerpted from Trader Vic’s post of 2006 Aug 22, 15:25 at this forum: —First off…

If you’re not out of the current month’s option by Wed of the previous expiration week, you will lose money, period… Secondly, you will have a chance to regain some of your loss during this period if you sell the option on the Wed, just before the option expiration…

And if you don’t, I guarantee you that the next two days (going into option expiration) will be down, big time, into the close… Now, you can back test this theory if you want, but I have already done it and almost every month has been the same…

So if you are in this situation, Sell the Wed, week before expiration and roll it forward or wait until 3pm on the Friday close and buy like crazy…    So, you ask, how they are always able to do that… And I answer, easily…

They naked short sell into the two days prior to expiration and cover the last hour of expiration to make sure that they hit the round numbers… You can always tell where the round numbers are by looking at the open interest on the calls…

The one with the greatest open interest is where they will hit it right on the nose… So, unless you like giving your money away to the option thieves, heed my observations… Remember this is not trading advice, just my observations, do your own due diligence…—

Memory Lane: Posted by (quikpik) on Feb 22, (2002) to @ JLS

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 22:14 on February 19, 2018  

JLS: I’ve been investing/”trading” for 40 years

(quikpik) Feb 22, 00:29 (2002)

And there are no books that can take the place of “on the job” experience. My dad was a stockbroker and I’m well schooled in dealing with bull and bear markets but it has taken me a lifetime to become proficient at deriving my sole source of income from the stock market. It’s all a game anyhow. I just try to “take what the market offers”, knowing it’s a game, in order to make money. There is no high moral ground that needs to be considered when it comes to the stock market.

I’m sure your aware of basic TA rules. When a stock moves, you always want to see heavier than normal daily volume. If the stock is moving down on extremely heavy volume you want to be out. Always check the “size”. How many shares are being bid for and offered. When a stock is moving down you don’t want to see small size on the bid side. You need to wait, not only till the price stabilizes but it needs to be confirmed with heavy bid sizes.

The simplest fundamental is using the long-term trend lines. Whether it’s a stock or index averages. When the Naz was over 5,000, the long-term uptrend line showed that a pullback to 4800 would VIOLATE this uptrend. When the pullback happened I advised all my family to liquidate 1/3 of their positions. At 4500 we would sell out everything. That simple uptrend line got us out of the bubble very near the top. My own analysis at that time( March of 2000) was to move into forgotten preferred stocks of “A” rated REITS yielding 12-15% dividends and closed end Bond income funds also yielding 10-11%.

Even with any stock I might “adore” incl gold stocks, I would sell if that particular trend line was violated (especially on heavy volume) because somebody knows something that will eventually become apparent at some later date.

The money talks – heavy volume, up or down is telling you a story. However, if there is continual heavy volume and the stock price fails to continue to rise, that that would be considered “distribution” and I would liquidate my position.

The thing to remember is that you can always get back into a stock. You don’t need to catch every single point of the move.

Never let a profit turn into a loss.

As my daddy used to say: “You’ll never go broke taking profits.”

Between my regular accounts and my/and wife’s IRA accounts, I make about 2,000 trades per year, 75% of which are profitable. My average holding time is anywhere from 10 minutes to 2 days. Day traders need to use the 7-10 DMA to trigger buy and sell decisions. Using this gets you in and out very, very fast. But in time you get to study stocks and their price and volume trading patterns. There are many times that I ‘m able to trade the same gold and oil stocks 2, 3 and 4 times a day. True, I have to pay taxes on my trading profits, but it’s only the difference between the 20% Capital gains rate and my tax bracket rate and only in my regular trading accounts and not in my IRAs. I’d rather have the profits in hand than HOPE that they’ll still be there over 1 year later.

P.S. – I’ve been retired since I was 52 yrs old and that was 10 years ago. I made and lost tons of money in the 1978-1980 gold mania. I sold all my Kruggies back in 1980 at $500/each when gold broke down. It’s only been this year that I started to accumulate gold and silver bullion again. What I’m doing now is that whatever trading profits I make on my gold trades, I use that money to buy physical bullion. I’m not afraid of being out of gold stocks, for short periods. Like I said, I’ll just pay a little more to get back in. In the meantime, I’m building quite a physical portfolio of PMs.

So when can we expect the First Foreign AID to AMerica Check ?

Posted by Ororeef @ 17:48 on February 19, 2018  

Israel to Export Natural Gas to Egypt in $15 Billion Deal

By

David Wainer

and

Yaacov Benmeleh
February 19, 2018, 7:45 AM EST Updated on February 19, 2018, 10:56 AM EST
  • Ties between neighbors broaden from security to economics
  • Deal suggests Israel de-emphasizing pipeline option to Turkey

The lead partners in Israel’s largest gas fields said they signed a $15 billion export deal with Egypt, adding an economic dimension to what until now has been a security-focused relationship between former regional rivals.

Joseph Philippe Pierre Yves Elliot Trudeau , PC , CC , CH, QC , FRSC

Posted by Alex Valdor @ 17:43 on February 19, 2018  

…and the man certainly NOT his father :

trudeau80

My mother told me that if I could not say anything nice about a person , not to say anything at all.

So I will not call him a pretentious ass .

Canadian PM Justin Trudeau

Posted by commish @ 16:46 on February 19, 2018  

nhqk5rbb And his Dad.

my bad!

Posted by treefrog @ 15:41 on February 19, 2018  

lee’s b-day is january 19

next TOP between 2022 to 2033 ?

Posted by Ororeef @ 15:17 on February 19, 2018  

re Wo’Media Blasting Trump Response To Shooting videos

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 15:08 on February 19, 2018  

The Mass Media should be referred to as The Woman’s Media. Or Wo’media. The American men obviously don’t have a media of their own. 🙂

OIl,Gas,Mining,GOLD..its clear !

Posted by Ororeef @ 15:03 on February 19, 2018  

Ororeef @ 13:34 re Feminism Darkest DAY ! TPTB are Feminazis’ Want Gun Control Too

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 14:30 on February 19, 2018  

FEMINAZI:

“A feminist who supports the hatred of men, female privilege, the culling/extermination of men, censorship of opposing arguments (facebook, Wikipedia, university protests of talks concerning mens issues, mass flagging on youtube videos etc). The term feminazi is a play on the words feminist and nazi as those who use the term believe there are glaring similarites between the two political ideologies and their methods of censorship, propaganda, fallacys, double standards and causing division.”.

Comment:

Decades ago they got control. All the single mom households (divorces) created in the late ’60s early 70s when woman entered the workforce, unwittingly foisted a woman’s perspective on many fatherless sons. No BB gun allowed for example. Instead of 50% men and 50% woman, we now have 50% woman and 25% girlymen, which leaves only 25% real actual MEN in the whole system.

And that’s why everything is soooo screwed up. The liberal view was the dominant force until the 2008 meltdown. Now signs are its all drifting opposite. No more illegal aliens for one. More states than ever allow concealed carry permits. Many woman even have control over men in high places, like some presidents.

The liberals or Emotionals had their way. They got the “keys” for the car, they crashed the car, and they are slowly losing their “driving” privileges’. They (Woman and girlymen) see TRUMP and his rhetoric as their enemy, and the Feminazis must also be in control of the fake news media.

If you need to know why the media is always bad mouthing “Practical Trump” and the “new” practical versus emotional directions for the USA, then you have to assume the emotional “woman” are in charge.

There are many cases, many woman, that are conservative and practical and think like men. I know a few. Rush Limbaugh’s wife? They have gun smith husbands, gun collector husbands, husbands that go hunting etc.

Like Trump said about the Mexicans. They aren’t ALL bad. 🙂

Sinbad, Treefrog

Posted by AuNeophyte @ 14:26 on February 19, 2018  

Happy Jefferson F. Davis day!

 

Neo

Ozarkansas

Portugeezer Presidents’ Day.

Posted by goldielocks @ 13:36 on February 19, 2018  

In schools they’re not taking a day off they’re taking a whole week off in Calif.

Feminism Darkest DAY !

Posted by Ororeef @ 13:34 on February 19, 2018  

Two minutes ago   I just watched a Court proceeding in Ft Lauderdale Fla about that guy that killed 17 Young people  ,.It was a SAD scene that was about to fix the outcome of this case and deny justice to 17 Familys ,a most sickening scene of A FEMALE JUDGE and SIX female Lawyers arguing about why that Court should SUPPRESS evidence that they had about this guys cruelty to animals prior to the murders he committed .The type of evidence that is common to mass murderers..crualty to animals .No empathy for animals,or humans  that they torture .ITS CLASSIC   !They want to suppress evidence of comments he made to witnesses on UTUBE and Social Media about how he wanted to do a SCHOOL killing and those witnesses that tipped the FBI ..be kept from the Court.These FEMALE Lawyers the whole GAGGLE of them were hugging him and “MOTHERING “HIM ,,it was making me sick and then to hear the JUDGE say SHE wanted to keep everything that is being brought to her Court from reaching any other Court so SHE could have totol control

over the outcome of this case .They wanted to suppress all the damaging evidence and the judge was very sympathetic .It was clear she was going to make the Death Penalty off the Table in her Court.and he would probably never go to JAIL either.   The FIX is in ..as HILLARY and he Feminism co horts would gloat …Ya shudda seen it on TV this afternoon about 1 pm ..it was sickening ..I hope its on film for the Prosecution to use…Maybe there wont be any prosecution with the FIX being done by the Judge and the only semblance of justice will be the public disclosure of the Courts actions on film….

Portugeezer @ 5:37

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 13:32 on February 19, 2018  

Good post, lot of good points there. Many years ago I read a book that stated the Fed was created, so the USA can fund or finance wars. I guess the banks would collect interest payments and the owners of defense plants would get the gravy.

Think about it. Fed created 1913 and 4 years later 1917 we are in WW I. Then 28 years later  in 1941 we’re embroiled in WW II . Then they got us into Korea, Vietnam, on and on and on until 1991 and the USSR went bankrupt instead of us with that fake rivalry they called the cold war.

The Fed led the USA to bankruptcy two times after 1913’s loss of US independence, 1929 and 2008. Lately it seems all the kings horses and all the king’s men, are in panic mode jawboning and cheerleading the prosperity and terrific growth of the US economy, because in reality in the past, the TPTB depended on, made use of, and harvested the resourceful easy going Americans.

Robert E. Lee – Jan 19 unless my memory failed me

Posted by sinbad @ 13:08 on February 19, 2018  

Leee

portugeezer,

Posted by treefrog @ 10:47 on February 19, 2018  

they just think it’s “presidents’ day”  here in the occupied confederacy, we know it’s robert e. lee’s birthday.

For your delectation…

Posted by Richard640 @ 7:46 on February 19, 2018  
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Mkts. are closed-it’s a slow day-G&S futs. are down-so I’m just gonna stay in bed and close my eyes and try to envision a “world clock”-try it sometimes…it’s very soothing for the soul…[N’yuk! N’yuk!]

Posted by Richard640 @ 7:40 on February 19, 2018  
In this book, Jung argues for a reevaluation of the symbolism of Alchemy as being intimately related to the psychoanalytical process. Using a cycle of dreams of one of his patients he shows how the symbols used by the Alchemists occur in the psyche as part of the reservoir of mythological images drawn upon by the individual in their dream states. Jung draws an analogy between the Great Work of the Alchemists and the process of reintegration and individuation of the psyche in the modern psychiatric patient.
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In drawing these parallels Jung reinforces the universal nature of his theory of the archetype and makes an impassioned argument for the importance of spirituality in the psychic health of the modern man. Lavishly illustrated with images, drawings and paintings from Alchemy and other mythological sources including Christianity the book is another example of Jung’s immense erudition and fascination with the eso- and exoteric expressions of spirituality and the psyche in religion and mysticism.
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Influenced by pioneering work by Ethan Allen Hitchcock and Herbert Silberer (who was in turn influenced by Jung), Psychology and Alchemy is a seminal work of reevaluation of a forgotten system of thought which did much to revitalise interest in Alchemy as a serious force in Western philosophical and esoteric culture.
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Also interesting about this book is that patient whose dreams are being analyzed in the second section is the physicist Wolfgang Pauli, who would go on to collaborate with Jung on such ideas as the acausal connection principle of synchronicity. The dreams are interpreted as a series to elucidate the meanings of recurring motifs and symbols, with the series culminating in the vision of a ‘world clock’, which is actually several clocks on different planes operating on different scales and colours as a symbol of Pauli’s unconscious apprehension of some grand cosmic order. Three of the best of these dreams were also mentioned by Jung in his Terry lectures Psychology of Religion.

Gold Train

Posted by Maya @ 5:09 on February 19, 2018  

rrflasher-copy

It’s Monday.  Are you ready for the commute?

The Milwaukee Gold Train
http://www.railpictures.net/photo/647938/

 

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