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commish @ 19:40

Posted by goldcountry @ 22:09 on April 17, 2018  

that’s a good one from Pieczenik, thanks

@ Elliot – a question – the Pentagon

Posted by drb2 @ 22:06 on April 17, 2018  

Hi Elliot,

I am not trying to Monkey Pile on you here, but please remember you brought up the subject.

I would like in the worst way to believe that 911 is just as the media sells it.  But the problem for me, even as I watched it happen live, is that it doesn’t pass the “smell test” in so many ways.

One of those for me is the Pentagon. I have trouble imagining that the Pentagon did not foresee such an attack.  Tom  Clancy sure did.

Where were their defenses?  Surely, at least, they had every square inch under CCTV coverage.  All we got to see was some grainy pics from a parking lot or somewhere.

I would be interested in hearing your thoughts on that.

I wonder how the scum force these schmucks to stay quite about the real Rig ???

Posted by Maddog @ 20:51 on April 17, 2018  

Do they just tell them they are dead, if they don’t take the rap and keep quite ???

Gold Manipulation, Spoofing Futures And Banging Fixes: Same Banks, Same Trading Desks

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-17/gold-manipulation-spoofing-futures-and-banging-fixes-same-banks-same-trading-desks

Elliot 19:29

Posted by Samb @ 19:51 on April 17, 2018  

The interior steel core was not in any way affected by the pancake collapse of  concrete floors. It was completely independent of them. At most, the elevator banks and stairwells could have collapsed but, the core steel column would still stand… free of them. Remember the rectangle dimensions that I gave you….133 feet x 87 feet [x2] ?  That is open space all the way up to the 110 floor for the elevator banks and stair wells. The stairwells had minimal cosmetic ceilings. So, here we had a massive, thick steel structure essentially free from  floor weight. Try again Elliot or if you prefer keep on chuck a lugging with your kool aid denial. Reality is a bitch… it might even crash your world down.

Elliott @ 17:04 Re Trump and The Powers That Be

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 19:46 on April 17, 2018  

Some things to think about. The same PTB that hate Trump gave him TONS of media time during and after the campaign. They also gave Hillary TONS of negative coverage. Briefly, there is always a group involved ahead of time. Meetings discussions etc. There was even a “group” of like minded people around Hitler, who LOVED they way he talked. So they chose him to do all the talking and run for office to get the most the votes for the group.

Nobody knows exactly how the situation unfolded, but I’m thinking the original “group” of PTB during Obama had already started after the ’08 crash to replenish the US economy out of necessity.

If anyone remembers, everything started reversing, starting with “no more looking the other way,” where or when the public and or waste of taxpayer money are getting screwed. Madoff for starters. Also the news was “Obama throwing Israel under the bus” and “Obama” is cutting back on the Military”. Also very slight improvements for the economy re trade. A few corporations came here, Michelin tires and an Airbus was built in Ala.

Evidently, the whole group changed its plan, or PART of the group spun off and said, “screw that original plan.  It was progressing too slow, and the economy might tank.”  “Plus we LIKE Israel, and we LOVE the military.” “We can’t go on trying to save taxpayer dollars anymore” “We have nothing to lose” “We need to do what we always did. Increase the national debt first”

Plus all the other things we see re trade taxes etc. I say they are going for double or nothing, hoping the economy will get better fast and pay down the debt before the next crisis. This was a very brief explanation.

read this Elliot

Posted by igold @ 19:46 on April 17, 2018  

America First—R.I.P.

With the big drop in the VIX today and this panic into the FANG stocks, I’m going back to looking for short plays again-I thought stocks were off to the races.

Posted by Richard640 @ 19:44 on April 17, 2018  
Netflix just reported.  Their stock soared and is a few bucks from an all-time high. The company has negative cash flow, a forecast of negative cash flow for the foreseeable future, an escalation in debt and revenue that implies the firm will never have positive cash flow and, to break that the company would have to expand subscribers (without spending a single additional dollar) by something like a factor of five, quadruple the subscription price (!) or some blend of the two — all without having to spend even more on content.  They have an alleged “enterprise value” (market cap) of some three hundred times EBIDTA and are carrying roughly three times as much debt off their balance sheet as reported on it.   This is true even with the insane cross-subsidy they forced ISPs to collect from non-customers during the Obama years — and which persists to this day in the United States.
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IBM Tumbles After “Beating” Thanks To Grotesque Adjustments, -47.5% Effective Tax Rate

IBM once again tried to fool investors with a kitchen sink of adjustments and one-time items. Not this time…

Elliot – Thanks for the quick response

Posted by Buygold @ 19:43 on April 17, 2018  

Good deal. Glad to hear you believe in pm manipulation, so there is some common ground.

So, if the gov’t and by extension Wall Street, lies to us about free and fair markets – which pm’s are obviously not free, and I expect not just pm’s but now all markets.

Why would the Gov’t tell us the truth about anything else?

You stated earlier that we (the US ) were the leaders of the free world, therefore we had the right to remove “dictators” and “tyrants” at will. Are we truly free? I’m a slave to the US Gov’t thru taxation – I work at least 5 months a year for them. I don’t feel free. The US Gov’t IMHO is tyrannical. We here in the US have the illusion of “freedom”. Try not paying your taxes that go to pay for foreign wars to see if we are truly free. Who will we allow to remove our tyrants?

 

Art Of The Deal (5 min)

Posted by commish @ 19:40 on April 17, 2018  

Well Elliot

Posted by Buygold @ 19:01 on April 17, 2018  

I’ll give you this – you stirred up the pot and got a good debate going here at the tent. Kudos

Gotta love the folks that buy everything Good Ol’ Uncle Sam is selling!

I do have a question since we’re turning our focus to pm’s – are pm’s manipulated or is that just another tin foil hat conspiracy theory?

Elliot @ 16:05

Posted by Samb @ 17:18 on April 17, 2018  

No Elliot, you lack credibility regarding your kool aid acceptance of the Trade Towers collapse. Remember that I told you that I watched those towers being built? The inner core steel column was immense …133feet by 87 feet. [ x2] That is of 6 inch thick steel pounded deep into the bedrock and extending 110 stories to the roof. It was completely independent of the trade towers structure and design. So the floors and exterior could completely collapse and it would have no effect on this massive steel core. A massive fuel driven fire might buckle it a bit near point of impact but, that steel column would easily survive. The purpose of that core steel was to independently support the elevator banks and the stairwells for 110 stories. The only way to bring it down would be to cut it into pieces. Yet, poof! it’s gone…who is kidding who?

Mark Mobius says there’s a 30% correction coming for U.S. stocks

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 16:41 on April 17, 2018  

part:

“I can see a 30% drop,” said Mobius, who launched one of the world’s first emerging market funds. “When consumer confidence is at an all time high, as it is in the U.S., that is not a good sign.

“The market looks to me to be waiting for a trigger that will cause it to tumble. You can’t predict what that event might be — perhaps a natural disaster or war with North Korea.”

Mobius, who predicted the start of the bull market in 2009, has concerns that any fall would be amplified by the increasing use of exchange traded funds, which account for nearly one-half of all trading in U.S. stocks. His fear is ETFs would trigger further drops once markets fall.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/mark-mobius-says-theres-a-30-correction-coming-for-us-stocks-2018-04-17

Re Trump “he is not owned by anyone”

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 16:34 on April 17, 2018  

How do we know he was not recruited and unleashed by TPTB, because their old system was failing. And Trump predicted it long ago. And also mentioned he would run for president if it got important to do so.

TPTB knew his rhetoric, and probably knew he was right back in the late ’80s. But wanted to keep their system (of spreading US wealth) going a little longer. He’s the perfect spokesperson for reversing the past. No scripts needed. Its all in his head.

Me, Ross Perot, and George Carlin were the original Trumps. 🙂

Everything We “Know” Was Taught, or Told To Us By “Their” Media

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 16:16 on April 17, 2018  

I find it hard to believe anything they say. And or their “films” of alleged evidence.

ELLIOTT-me too!-NETFLIX up $30 today [Ponzi World]

Posted by Richard640 @ 16:02 on April 17, 2018  

Netflix peaked concurrent with the casino, the last two times…

 

Well! Well! This is a horse of a different color…

Posted by Richard640 @ 15:41 on April 17, 2018  

VIX Crashes To A 14 Handle

FYI….I just hate to join a possee but I just got a feeling that…..

Posted by Richard640 @ 15:28 on April 17, 2018  
Type Price Act. Price Time-in-Force Reported
Filled Buy to Open 200 SLV Apr 20 2018 16.0 Call Limit 0.06 15:26:55 04/17/18

Lets face it. From March 2009?

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 15:09 on April 17, 2018  

The economy, the stocks, and the real estate mkt, have been doing very good for 9 years now. The Trump effect since summer 2016 may be wearing out and or have been, giving a head wind for a natural decline in all three. Plus a friend sent me the note below.

“I follow an options trading website. They have been fairly accurate about describing the moves in the S&P by looking at the implied volatility of the futures. Its all new to me but it is astonishingly accurate. They can only measure the degree of the move up or down. However, the guy that runs this site is totally bearish in his option positions. He said last night he believes the S&P will hit 2575 before the end of the week!!  Wow. That would be quite a reversal. And, as I always say, watch the last 30 minutes of market action and trading today. ”

“The volatility indexes have sold off in the recent few days and it may be time for volatility to return.”

 

FWIW

Posted by goldielocks @ 14:42 on April 17, 2018  

Word is it was a attack on rebels some said ISIS and the rest were collateral damage.
France issues report detailing evidence of Assad role in chemical attacks

The report claims that several chemical strikes were carried out in the Damascus suburb of Douma on April 7, and that symptoms experienced by the victims — skin burns, suffocation and other breathing difficulties, among other markers — were consistent with the effects of chlorine gas.
“Reliable intelligence indicates that Syrian military officials have coordinated what appears to be the use of chemical weapons containing chlorine on Douma, on April 7,” the report, released by the French Foreign Ministry, reads.
The report also states that the Syrian government has carried out a number of chemical weapons strikes since April 4, 2017 — the same day a chemical attack in Syria’s northern Idlib province left more than 80 civilians dead.
The U.S. issued an assessment on Friday night pointing to the Syrian government’s role in the alleged chemical attacks in Douma.
That report cites “multiple media sources, the reported symptoms experienced by victims, videos and images showing two assessed barrel bombs from the attack, and reliable information indicating coordination between Syrian military officials before the attack.”
The assessment also suggests that the Syrian government not only used chlorine in the attack on Douma, but that reported symptoms were also consistent with exposure to sarin, a deadly nerve agent.
The French and U.S. assessments came hours after leaders in Washington, Paris and London authorized “precision strikes” on targets in Syria believed to be associated with the country’s chemical weapons arsenal.
Syria and its allies, Russia and Iran, have denied that Assad’s government used chemical weapons, and have sought to blame both foreign actors and militant groups for staging the attacks in Douma.
Russia has accused the U.S. and its allies of failing to produce adequate evidence of the Syrian government’s role in the chemical attack.
The Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons, the international chemical weapons watchdog, launched an investigation into the alleged chemical strikes on Douma on Saturday.
The allied strikes on Friday were cast by U.S. officials, not as a punishment for Assad’s government, but as a means to eradicate Syria’s chemical stockpile and production capabilities.
Lt. Gen. Kenneth McKenzie, the director of the Joint Staff, said Saturday that while the allied attacks dealt a blow to Syria’s chemical weapons program, Damascus likely retained “residual” elements of its chemical arsenal.
President Trump and other U.S. officials have said that they are prepared to take further action in Syria, unless Assad’s government ceases its alleged use of chemical weapons.

Surveyor check your inbox

Posted by ipso facto @ 14:22 on April 17, 2018  

R640

Posted by Maddog @ 14:09 on April 17, 2018  

Re SLV calls

SLV at 15.80 with 34 cents for an Apr 15.50 strike, decl 20 Apr…isn’t the call seller saying he wants only 4 cents for 3 days….which with the Rig ain’t far wrong historically.

Did anyone here just buy the slv april 20th $16 call? Since I posted the volume has jumped by 1000 or 1200 calls

Posted by Richard640 @ 14:07 on April 17, 2018  

Netflix is is $30-It’s the 300 P/E safe haven trade—who needs gold…

Posted by Richard640 @ 14:03 on April 17, 2018  

Tuesday, April 17, 2018

http://ponziworld.blogspot.com/

House Of Cards

The casino has lost its institutional sponsorship. Another generation of gamblers bilked. Shocking…



“The allocation to global technology shares also fell sharply — to a five-year low…Yet, FANG and big-cap tech stocks remained the most crowded trade for a third month”

It’s the 300 P/E safe haven trade

R640

Posted by Buygold @ 13:45 on April 17, 2018  

Doesn’t usually work that way but a rip your face off rally for op ex would be nice.

AMAZON-up $54–GOOGLE–up $33—NETFLIX–UP $30–FB up $3.50

Posted by Richard640 @ 13:42 on April 17, 2018  

Shock and awe, baby, shock and awe–SHORT THAT-! [if u dare; I don’t]

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