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Goldilocks re 20:15

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 22:24 on April 24, 2018  

I just don’t believe anything at face value from the TV set. China selling Bonds? To who? Who in China? The Gov’t? The banks? If they sell US Bonds, what are they going to do with the money? Buy CDs?

As for the “rivalry”? Imo China Russia and USA are behind the scenes, staunch allies since WW II. As for Negotiate trade?? Ask yourself how China got all the work to start with from USA. Did they negotiate in 1979 to take work away from USA?? Ha.

The original story from the 1970s, establish trade with China. US Businesses salivating to sell into China population, but had to wealthy them up first, with US consumer dollars. It was all rigged with high taxes and no “smoke”, and a $1 to 7 yuan exchange rate , Dollar to Yuan. They didn’t beg the USA to get work. They were chosen.

Watch “China” involuntarily get tough on “smoke”, raise the taxes on businesses over there, lower taxes here, more “smoke” allowed here, and push our original businesses back this way.

The Chinese people and gov’t imo had NOTHING to do with getting prosperity. The global central master planners had to be involved, and I think they are now involved in wealthying up the USA like they picked China in 1979. Japan was chosen before them. Japan was abandoned in 1989, and lost to China. The USA was probably “chosen” for build up in 1913, and we got abandoned in 1971 when they de-pegged gold and dollar.

I do not believe anything they say on TV. Its all entertainment, propaganda or special interest advertisement. Free info is worth exactly that free. In fact free info is COSTLY.

the Big Pharma push to get their HIGH priced cure for seizures on the fast track.

Posted by overton @ 21:41 on April 24, 2018  

I’ve read $2500-$5000 a month for this epidiolex CBD drug for seizures.  Seems Xpensive when you could get it at local shop.

https://www.thecannabist.co/2018/04/24/cbd-epidiolex-colorado-bill-pass-senate/104231/

Former Sec of State

Posted by commish @ 20:21 on April 24, 2018  

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Mr Copper

Posted by goldielocks @ 20:15 on April 24, 2018  

I’m not watching bonds been too busy but talk with is bonds are being sold by China who previously bought our debt so they could just go on creating more debt by selling us our goods at a discount. Trump has put tariffs on them so they are saying okay we’re going to sell the bonds. We’ll have to wait until the Trump and China negotiate.
Ps there is also talk about inflation.

Definitely think he should file his suit after he turns on the Obama DOJ – what a slimeball

Posted by Buygold @ 18:20 on April 24, 2018  

“Very Pissed Off” Obama DOJ Made “Dramatic” Call To McCabe To Quash Clinton Probe

“McCabe thought the call was out of bounds.”

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@Maddog

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 17:13 on April 24, 2018  

What you said makes perfect sense. But to me this whole system makes no sense. They lie all the time. Make us think the system is normal, and the bonds are being sold at a normal (not rigged) auction. And the auction determines the rates.

Another thing to keep in mind. Because of the excess printing and gov’t supported industries, there are way too many people and businesses that have TONS and TONS of money, and there is no place else to put it.

You could say the excess money supply is being shoved and forced into savings of various places. Then its somebody’s liability to be responsible for it. In my Schwab account all sweep funds (idle cash) go into treasuries. If they keep selling off stocks, that alone could push rates lower.

Its no more too much money chasing too few goods. Its 10 pounds of money shoved into a 5 pound bag. For all we know the Fed may be struggling to hold rates UP where they are. Falling rates may be against their will. I heard in Europe rates are barley above zero. Figure THAT one out.

The whole system is distorted. The 18 to 25 year olds have nothing, can’t leave home, can’t spend and contribute to society. And the other half has more money than they could spend in two or three lifetimes.

The greedy domestic businessman BOZOS running things after 1970 couldn’t have a normal inflation adjusted adequate minimum wage anymore. Foreign competition. Min Wage like 1967 would require $26/hr today.

Yeah Richard I’m not sure why you would watch Fox

Posted by eeos @ 16:46 on April 24, 2018  

Isn’t it just distorted skewed garbage like the rest of the mainstream media? I don’t exactly find it refreshing informative or factual. But then again I don’t listen to any of those media supergiant’s cuz they’re full of s***

Golden Bowl

Posted by Ororeef @ 16:41 on April 24, 2018  

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Mr.Copper

Posted by Maddog @ 16:16 on April 24, 2018  

Re Bonds

There are v good reasons for Bond rates to go up…..the sheer size of the supply, ie the amount they have to sell just to finance spending, plus all the debt that has to be refinanced…the only reason rates are not way up is because the Fed has run QE…that supposedly is stopped….so rates should normalize.

But we live in unreal times and their games have so far inoculated them from reality…..

redneckokie1

Posted by ipso facto @ 16:15 on April 24, 2018  

Well … Happy Birthday to your Mother … and have fun in Belize! 🙂

PS I hope I get to 99!

Kansas City wheat

Posted by redneckokie1 @ 15:12 on April 24, 2018  

Stock market is tanking and KC wheat puts in outside key reversal up against bearish fundamentals.

 

Ipso, my mother’s 99th birthday is Friday and I will be going to Belize sometime after that. Maybe in the middle of May.

 

rno

MADDOG-thanks, I understand what u r. saying-but fox only displays real time comex quotes-must be an error by fox today

Posted by Richard640 @ 15:07 on April 24, 2018  

Re Ten Year Bond Interest Rate Going Up All Month Is A False Flag

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 14:53 on April 24, 2018  

Sounds like it touched 3% and they are using that as an excuse for the drop today. Last summer the week of July 4th 2016 the rate was 1.4%. Now its double near 3%.

There was absolutely no reason for the Bond rate to go up until Trump started campaigning. With all that optimistic news. And or the Fed manually drove it up so as to have some “rate ammo” to drop in the next recession. The falling Dow may be predicting that recession.

Remember?? “LET’S PUT LIPSTICK ON THIS PIG” ???

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 14:07 on April 24, 2018  

I don’t care what they say. I don’t believe anything they say. The so called bull market and economic recovery from 2009 has finally ended imo in mid 2016, then suddenly Trump an company in panic mode, cheerleading, kicked in the after burner, and gave it more spin or humph to late January.

The party is over. My guess is a recession soon and another real estate dive.

Mr Copper

Posted by Maddog @ 13:59 on April 24, 2018  

Yup Jan was when the mkt stumbled badly alright, what I see now is the leaders being taken apart again, but so far a lot of the money has stayed in the mkt, hence no really big sustained falls.

But tdy is a bit more ominous, as I don’t see where the money is going, as most stocks are down. but Bonds are not seeing inflows, quite the reverse…PM stox maybe some….but they are being sat on as usual…for the moment.

OOOP’s

Posted by Maddog @ 13:51 on April 24, 2018  

Facebook Shares Sink On Report Cyber Criminals Are Hawking Stolen Identities On Its Platform

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R640

Posted by Maddog @ 13:45 on April 24, 2018  

Re Silver

It could be diff between the Crimex close and Spot close making the diff…I think there is 5 1/2 hrs diff in time, depending when the spot rates is taken.

Given the reversal in CAT, we must, again, meditate on the fact that bull mkts peak on peak earnings and good news [like earnings, like Korea, like record new homes startsetc]

Posted by Richard640 @ 13:43 on April 24, 2018  

 

 

 

 

@Maddog @Ipso Re Dow diving Again

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 13:41 on April 24, 2018  

I’m not surprised though. That big hit in late Jan to me was a vary bad signal. We’ve seen that same type of action on gold mining stocks on highs. Remember? They used to say up like a stairway and down like the elevator. Its THEIR turn now.

Given what crude did yesterday-and given what stocks are doing-I declare the $ index rally over-Furthermore, I give you permission to go back into PMs and add to positions.

Posted by Richard640 @ 13:37 on April 24, 2018  

[what a pompous ass!]

http://futures.tradingcharts.com/marketquotes/DX.html

All the sites i use are showing comex silver up about 10 cents-yet fox business has been showing it up 19 or 20 cents for the past hour-what gives?

Posted by Richard640 @ 13:31 on April 24, 2018  

http://www.cmegroup.com/trading/metals/precious/silver.html?ds_medium=cpc&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIiPWkxrfT2gIVCZyzCh2B1wgoEAAYASAAEgJX6fD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

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Buygold @ 13:19

Posted by ipso facto @ 13:30 on April 24, 2018  

Unfortunately you’re right. At least the Seahawks and the socialist Seattle politicians are separate entities.

Say it ain’t so Pete! emoji_1f601

Hey Mr Copper

Posted by Maddog @ 13:28 on April 24, 2018  

I was just about to comment that the SM sure has a weak side to it now….E-wave says we are nearing the end of the run from the 2009 Lo’s and the action is starting to confirm that.

Plus the Rig is blowing a few gaskets tdy, sure the Dollar is bid and PM’s quite…but Bonds (rates) are way up/futures down, that should not be happening in scumworld.

DOW may be falling

Posted by Buygold @ 13:21 on April 24, 2018  

but pm’s are well under control

Ipso

Posted by Buygold @ 13:19 on April 24, 2018  

Personally I think Kapernick is a Seattle kind of guy. Probably fit in well with the team and the public.?

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