treefrog @ 20:43 re long standing disputes…
Just some instinctive thoughts. I’m no historian. So. Would it be fair to say the Jewish people left the Middle east 2000 years ago, and migrated north to Europe where they excelled? I would assume, if they never left the M/E they would might be somewhat backwards like the masses that stayed down there.
Decades ago an old man coworker Bill Hatfield was his name. Said to me, the words anti-semitic didn’t make sense, because everybody over there were semites? I just looked it up. I guess its a language. So anti-semitic really means anti Jews and Arabs?
Semite: “a member of any of the peoples who speak or spoke a Semitic language, including in particular the Jews and Arabs.”
long standing disputes…
the “holy land”was promised to the children of abraham. just which of those children would have it (and how much of it, and which parts of it) has been a matter of dispute almost constantly since old abe kicked the bucket.
i think it is unrealistic to expect resolution of this question any time soon. (or ever, for that matter.)
i live thousands of miles from the disputed real estate – it is none of my concern. i wish our nation’s leaders could adopt this attitude. we do not have a dog in that fight, there is nothing for us to win.
In the New Poll
I did vote “yes”
But only if they are good neighbors…
OK Folks
I’m pretty responsible for some of the divisiveness going on here. Just get tired of certain stuff getting thrown out there without being challenged AND when challenged the name calling begins.
We have a tight knit group here and not all of us always agree, but mostly we agree to disagree without descending into name calling.
I guess if Ipso and Floridagold agree, we could have a vote about whether to keep Elliott in the group.
Let’s see how things play out?
Wait wait wait
Now the useless troll thinks we should delete posts. After he was just saying how much he deserves to be in the room with us and we should not delete him. This little game is gone too far tree frog. I guarantee Wonka would have kicked his ass out
Califazuela
Why Are So Many People Moving Out Of California?
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-19/why-are-so-many-people-moving-out-california
MM
Please don’t threaten the other posters. You’re better than that.
Mr Copper
Trump is trying to salvage some of those jobs through taxes and next fair trade.
I’m not sure how he went about it but hope a Demo that might come along later hopefully not who knows even a Demo in Repubs clothing can’t change it.
In some countries they give frozen 20 year low rates.
Not just what they give to China they copy everything. Silicon Valley having a real problem with that.
Macro
Macro my DJ friend, defense is mostly equal force when one force is stronger than the other. Buygold is a force that can take care of himself. He stopped therefore we should.
Re Mass Killers: Any Fishermen, Trappers or Exterminators Know, You Need Bait To Attract
Remember the WANTED signs in the Wild West days? $5000 REWARD Jessie James Dead Or Alive. Nothing good comes cheap. You get what you pay for.
They need to pass a law and let it be widely known on prime time TV,…..
A reward of $50,000 will be paid to anyone who truthfully admits to authorities, suicidal thoughts about killing themselves and others. Be it by car, truck, firearms, or any other means.
A $25,000 reward will be paid to friends family or acquaintances that know of people that have admitted to them suicidal thoughts about killing themselves and others. Be it by car, truck, firearms, or any other means.
At least the authorities could compile a list.
goldielocks @ 3:43 The Damage Has Already Been Done. It Can’t Get Any Worse For Us Long Term. Short Term Yes.
Re “we have to start worrying about ourselves. ” Many of us locals started doing that in the ’70s and ’80s. Now a days, the world gov’t itself is worried about the us consumer.
Re “China stealing technology by the billions.” Huh? Stealing? For one, TPTB GAVE our missile technology to China long ago. China is a “state” in one world gov’t mess they created.
Re “Trade is in the negative for us but at least Trump working on that.” I’m sure there are MANY global people, long time benefactors of globalization involved in the agenda to make America able to SPEND and pay down debt again. Populism caused by lower living standards here, goes against them and their future.
Re “Armstrong is talking about a depression now ” My view the depression, higher taxes, low wages and lower living standards started after 1980. That past depression led to the collapse in 2008. The Collapse was NOT because of prosperity since 1975. Accumulation of error or embezzlement, finally took hold. Coming depressions will probably occur in countries that benefitted the most, from transfers of USA industries.
Sorry Packy
I’ll take a break from this conversation. I’ve always appreciated your posts.
I don’t hold any particular Religious beliefs, but sure don’t hold anything against someone who does.
Food for thought, and I’m not defending Iran or Muslims.
OK – I’m done. 🙂
Ipso
Lol Then you put a question about Isreal on the poll. Hope people haven’t changed their minds now lol Yes Isreal has a right to exist but so do the Palestines.
I don’t think even the Muslims cared about them is the problem. They’ve kept them poor and ” expendable” by their leaders even the children with propaganda to do their bidding and still do.
“If you want to see the poor remain poor, generation after generation, just keep the standards low in their schools and make excuses for their academic shortcomings and personal misbehavior. But please don’t congratulate yourself on your compassion.” – Thomas Sowell
Buygold
That’s true you were about the the only one and look what happened.
Elliott
There’s a old saying and it doesn’t have to do with religion but can be included as well as politics. If you can’t take it yourself don’t give it out.
Go back and look at how you jumped in every conversation contradicting and insulting everyone. No hello, my name is Elliott or even I may disagree on this or that and this is why. There’s a difference between a argument ” their points and yours, and a ARGUMENT. You then left yourself open to the same. You didn’t even have anything good to say about Jewish people nor Christians. You came on representing it like a warrior clan.
New Poll New Poll
Vote Vote
ipso, certainly I will. I did not join this site to discuss racism.
But this works both ways. If you allow venomous hatred spewed on the site like what was posted last night at 2003 and 2104, then you have to allow people to retort. Those posts should be deleted immediately. You also have to stop the ad hominen attacks on posters who disagree.
Poll Results
Should the US withdraw from the Iran Nuke Deal?
Yes (56%, 19 Votes)
No (26%, 9 Votes)
I don’t know (18%, 6 Votes)
Total Voters: 34
Elliot
This isn’t Stockhouse or Yahoo. If you want to oppose someone’s position then do so without personal insults.
If you call the Admins “Nazis” what do you think is going to happen?
Here’s some advice … just stay away from the Jewish topic. You aren’t going to change anyone’s mind about what they think.
Packy
The Bible said that and more like how Jesus and his death was involved in it. Thing is Elliott came on here attacking and demeaning everyone not the other way around then playing the victim. The abusive person syndrome, I wouldn’t of attacked you if you didn’t say that. It didn’t even have to be about religion he was contradicting everyone like a troll. He may had some right things to say but who was listening to him after that?
Kinda reminds me of guys who told me when younger of how you’d be at a bar and someone would come in looking for a fight.
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