for trump to fail of re-election, a majority would have to be convinced that joe biden could do a better job. back here in the real world, i just don’t see that happening.
Maddog–if the regular flu season was advertised and promoted like the wuhan virus almost
everyone with flu OR cold symptoms would be flooding emergency rooms and doctors offices….and the health care system would collapse…the gory, horrific deaths u mention ARE the exception not the rule,,,and in the regular flu season some of the weak and elderly have a similar tough time…this virus is NOT unique and this year will go down in the history books as a record setting year for mass induced hysteria
Morning Maddog, R640
Maddog – yes, if they were to disallow flights from China, Iran etc. they would be considered RACISTS! It’s far more important to be politically correct in this day and age than contracting a silly old virus that might kill you. 🙂
R640 – We only know what the Gov’t owned media tells us about this virus. We don’t even know how real it is. I still think it’s a cover for something bigger, financial collapse or whatever.
We live in the Matrix…
A fiasco in the making? As the coronavirus pandemic takes hold, we are making decisions without reliable data
at time when everyone needs better information, from disease modelers and governments to people quarantined or just social distancing, we lack reliable evidence on how many people have been infected with SARS-CoV-2 or who continue to become infected. Better information is needed to guide decisions and actions of monumental significance and to monitor their impact.
Draconian countermeasures have been adopted in many countries. If the pandemic dissipates — either on its own or because of these measures — short-term extreme social distancing and lockdowns may be bearable. How long, though, should measures like these be continued if the pandemic churns across the globe unabated? How can policymakers tell if they are doing more good than harm?
Vaccines or affordable treatments take many months (or even years) to develop and test properly. Given such timelines, the consequences of long-term lockdowns are entirely unknown.
The data collected so far on how many people are infected and how the epidemic is evolving are utterly unreliable. Given the limited testing to date, some deaths and probably the vast majority of infections due to SARS-CoV-2 are being missed. We don’t know if we are failing to capture infections by a factor of three or 300. Three months after the outbreak emerged, most countries, including the U.S., lack the ability to test a large number of people and no countries have reliable data on the prevalence of the virus in a representative random sample of the general population.
This evidence fiasco creates tremendous uncertainty about the risk of dying from Covid-19. Reported case fatality rates, like the official 3.4% rate from the World Health Organization, cause horror — and are meaningless. Patients who have been tested for SARS-CoV-2 are disproportionately those with severe symptoms and bad outcomes. As most health systems have limited testing capacity, selection bias may even worsen in the near future.
The one situation where an entire, closed population was tested was the Diamond Princess cruise ship and its quarantine passengers. The case fatality rate there was 1.0%, but this was a largely elderly population, in which the death rate from Covid-19 is much higher.
Projecting the Diamond Princess mortality rate onto the age structure of the U.S. population, the death rate among people infected with Covid-19 would be 0.125%. But since this estimate is based on extremely thin data — there were just seven deaths among the 700 infected passengers and crew — the real death rate could stretch from five times lower (0.025%) to five times higher (0.625%). It is also possible that some of the passengers who were infected might die later, and that tourists may have different frequencies of chronic diseases — a risk factor for worse outcomes with SARS-CoV-2 infection — than the general population. Adding these extra sources of uncertainty, reasonable estimates for the case fatality ratio in the general U.S. population vary from 0.05% to 1%.
R640
It’s not just the No’s …it’s the way …it is a particularly nasty death….. plus the hosiptals soon get swamped and anyone over 60 hasn’t a hope of help……once the swamping starts.
London’s hospitals are almost swamped, but the UK has been seriously useless at planning, it is run by serial incompetents…they are still letting planes land from Italy, China and Iran and not testing anyone on them, or quarantining them, saying it wouldn’t make a diff !!!!!!….yet the general public are being ordered to stay in….
“Don’t be a luddy-duddy. Don’t be a mooncalf. Don’t be a jabbernowl. You’re not those, are you?”
BY THE NUMBERS, Via the CDC: 2019 Flu – 22,000 Dead and 36 Million Infected …
2019-20 Coronavirus – 50 Dead and 2,340 Infected
UPDATE-The numbers presented are the latest numbers from the CDCand the World Coronavirus Map
The latest numbers continue to indicate that the coronavirus is not much different than the common flu.
The truth is in the numbers.
As more data is known about the coronavirus, the numbers don’t looks as scary.
Here are the numbers as reportedon March 14, 2020:
R640 – JNUG, NUGT
Now that the 3 X’s funds have sufficiently stolen every dime from every person who’s ever held them, they’ll go to a 2 X’s fund, which means they are probably preparing to buy shares in a big way.
Might help to explain some of the late day mass liquidation of Thursday and Friday.
March 22nd
Skull and Bones Society
Gold Train
The SouthWest Chief flies
across the Missouri prairie.
https://railpictures.net/photo/724984/
Hawaii case count up 11 to 48 total now.
Novel Coronavirus in Hawaii COVID-19 Positive* Cases Cumulative totals as of 12:00pm on March 21, 2020 |
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Total (new) | 48 (11) |
County | |
Hawaii | 3 (2) |
Honolulu | 35 (7) |
Kauai | 3 (0) |
Maui | 7 (2) |
Hospitalized | 3 (1) |
Deaths | 0 (0) |
*includes presumptive and confirmed cases, and Hawaii and non-Hawaii residents; note that CDC provides case counts according to states of residence. |