It was so blatant today. The PM stocks are play toys of the criminals. Another reminder for the general public, not to get involved in PM stocks. Not much we can do about it. What pisses me off, though is that none of the CEO’s of these companies do squat about it. SVM came out a few days ago and said they would buy back their shares for the next year. Perhaps it’s because these companies are beholden to the bankers…..
Maddog @ 16:15
That’s why they let the corona-virus loose through their friends in China…to screw Trump.
They are desperate so I don’t think they will stop til they win or we are all dead.
Hope I’m wrong.
Cheers
Captain Hook
According to E wave the move from 2009 to 2020 can easily be counted as a 1st wave, if so the 2nd can sniff sub 700 in S&P…
I hear what u say about letting the mkt fall to trip up the Donald…but I really doubt that will work…only insane Dems will blame him, the vast majority will see he got tripped up …he will still win huge and jail them….he has yet to release loads of their dirt.
This hit is the worst ever for PM stox
GDX hit for 15 % in 35 mins, by the scum……
All they have is manipulation ….which is plain criminal….as all they really are trying to protect are the banksters..
Wow, that was bullshit
They must’ve dumped the shares en masse in the last five minutes.
WTF was that???
Mr. Copper
In the near future gold will be considered exactly like toilet paper- something everyone has to have.
Unfortunately, many will be steered toward the GLD and SLV rather than physical, and they won’t understand why their investment failed to perform as it should have.
Six Month Over Lay Graph, The Canadians and the British are Enjoying Weaker Currency with 6% Higher Gold Prices
European, Japanese, the Swiss and Americas have stronger currencies with 5% lower Gold. Who is luckier?
PS Look at the 5 year view. British Gold up 62%, Canadian up 45%,
Maddog @ 14:23
I think you are right. Nenner is on the same page too. He has called every crash since ’87.
The next time the Dow closes down 2k it could just keep going to 10k in short order.
And it makes sense because this is exactly what Hillary and Obama need to make sure Trump doesn’t get re-elected. So their operatives on Wall Street will let it happen. If he gets back in he will try to toss them in jail.
On top of that, the bearish speculators / hedgers are broken. They cannot short stocks / buy puts anymore. In fact, they are buying the dips via derivatives (index calls) attempting to play counter-trend moves. Just think of PM stocks in 2013 to get an idea of what can happen to the broads with the speculators on the wrong page.
Here comes a ’29 style plunge down 90% that does not recover.
If Trump gets back in despite this it won’t be good, but at least it would be better than having a full blown China style authoritarian in charge who will throw in a reconditioning camp (or shoot you) for going out of your house without permission.
Cheers
Oil having a nice bounce
Up over $5, as Putin and MBS battle it out. As usual, not seeing as much of a discount at the pump as we should.
These pm shares-especially the large caps-are bouncing hard. They never cease to surprise, gold down, the SM fading a little. PAPER SILVER up a little.
Makes me the think the market is expecting shortages of pm’s.
Precious metals are the toilet paper rolls of the financial markets – under appreciated until there isn’t much left.
I think the re-set crash we all expected after 1971 HAPPENED in 2008. But the thought police and money managers were able to “fool” the markets until a “spark” that we all figured in long ago would “lock up” the brakes.
part: Demand Shock
The demand experienced industry-wide over the past 5 days has been unprecedented. This is worse than Y2K, 9/11, or the Great Financial Crisis. It is the speed at which demand spiked (seemingly overnight) that has crippled the industry. Volume is up over 10x (in some cases much more) in a matter of days. This has strained customer service, logistics, and – relevant to this article – supply. The industry is built for elasticity. We are used to big spikes in demand. We can handle a 1 or 2 standard deviation move. We can’t handle a 5 standard deviation move in 5 days.
Distributors sold out of stockpiles in 48 hours. Dealer inventory disappeared immediately. Precious metals are the toilet paper rolls of the financial markets – under appreciated until there isn’t much left. To be sure, there is ample raw material, just like there are plenty of trees to make paper. Getting the raw material into the form that you want is the problem.
https://www.texmetals.com/news/demand-shock-the-forces-behind-rising-premiums/
Hey Maddog
Concur, if you’re saying you don’t think the SM will recover the losses. Certainly will not be a V-Shaped recovery.
Probably the best that can be hoped for is that it doesn’t go down another 5-10K pts. and just stabilizes.
Bond market looks a little more normal today.
R640 re: WPM, CDE
Yeah, I like WPM and at this point just about everything pm seems to be a trade until the metals make their move.
I will never touch CDE no matter how cheap they look. They hosed me years ago with their reverse splits and I swore them off.
HUI has had a nice reversal today – 26 pts. off the low, despite gold still down.
Kinross gold mine in Russia on lockdown after coronavirus suspected
Canada’s Kinross Gold Corp has isolated its Kupol mine in Russia’s Far East after two workers were hospitalised with suspected coronavirus infections in the biggest mining lockdown since the outbreak of the disease in December last year.
The plant, which has the capacity to produce 4,500 tonnes of ore a day, is continuing to operate on schedule, but its output is not being shipped, a spokesman said.
Air links to the remote mine, located in the Chukotka region, 400 km (248.55 miles) northwest of the city of Anadyr, have been suspended and its winter road route, a snow and ice overland connection, has been closed off.
Kinross gold mine in Russia on lockdown after coronavirus suspected
Has too much dmage been done to the mkts for them to recover
Deutsche bank was teetering before the virus hit, as were many others….Deutsche’s derivative book was 34 times the size of German GDP……maybe God knows how bad their position is now, because Deutsche sure doesn’t.
Maybe this is why even though there seems to be a simple cure, the mkts won’t/can’t recover.
I suspect this contain the masses is all about themselves. They’re all mostly seniors.
You know what I think this is about politicians since every flu can affect seniors and medical conditions more than others. It came out mostly people 65 and older were mostly affected.
Well guess what? How many of these politicians are 65 and older. Pelosi Waters Schumer you make it.
All of a sudden it is a personal thing and they are making sure they are protecting themselves from everyone else and the hell with the economy.
Those young can’t go out they can give it to them.
Otherwise they wouldn’t care. H1N1 was a younger person target even though it was wide spread killed over 500 thousand people world wide.
But the target was the younger group so they didn’t care. People who had longer to live. Selfish all about them or don’t care.
They’re scared don’t care who they hurt.
H1N1 2009
Additionally, CDC estimated that 151,700-575,400 people worldwide died from (H1N1)pdm09 virus infection during the first year the virus circulated.** Globally, 80 percent of (H1N1)pdm09 virus-related deaths were estimated to have occurred in people younger than 65 years of age. This differs greatly from typical seasonal influenza epidemics, during which about 70 percent to 90 percent of deaths are estimated to occur in people 65 years and older.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/2009-h1n1-pandemic.html
Richard
Just joking but guess Armstrong see’s equities not doing him any good right now so going to move back into the PMs so calling out the gold bugs.
Meanwhile pretty soon by April May you can get equities on the cheap too. They’ll probably take awhile to recover though. Everyone’s broke right now. People may have to draw from their 401Ks and IRAs as well.
Mr Copper
Yep they should wake up the masses of you can bypass the PC group they use to stop them.
Maddog
Temp does have something to do with it but has to be high like 132F Someone figures out how to blow hot air to your sinus where it starts. Lol You get a hair drier and a water bottle. You cover the back of the hair drier point it at your nose and use the water bottle to spray keep your face from biting or turn your heard to breath out. Lol Thing is are you going to get your sinus that hot what about your lungs at that heat? People are coming up with all sorts of weird stuff. The heat will cook the virus on surfaces exposed.
Ps plus the risk of electrocuting themselves.
Ororeef
Read the papers….it ain’t temperature…it is to do with Blood PH changing, which the virus doesn’t like and to do with making cells more receptive to Zinc….
we should know more soon, as trump has fast tracked it through the FDA…the FDA was poo poooing it until Trump sorted them out……Yr damn lucky having such a smart, can do President…boy will u miss him when he has retired.
Hang on I see the FDA has not approved the drug…….the Donald will be apoplectic and rightly so….what cretins.
eeos @ 3:06 re Your: “This whole problem stems from commie CHINA!!! “
Why don’t they expose on TV or the History Chanel how the HELL the USA got merged with China? Name names or groups. And later on after the shotgun wedding, “WE”? gave China most favored nation trade status. Early on in the “marriage” we GAVE them Missile Technology.
Soon after the beginners sent up a missile with a very expensive USA satellite on it, and it BLEW UP. What a bunch of dreamers the foreign influenced American leaders with a candy ass cookies and milk global sharing agenda. One big dumb and happy global family.
Switzerland people are very smart. I can’t believe they never got sucked into the Global Commune-ity.
Armstrong on gold–
Gold
QUESTION: Legend!
One simple question. When can we rule out a May high in Gold followed by a retest of 1362
EV
ANSWER: Well I have not been called that in a while. My problem with gold was that the ratio was scheduled for a new high in 2020 which we have finally got. The ratio exceeded the World War II high when silver was cheaper than nickel and the War Nickels were made of silver.
I am preparing the metals report. But show you what has been holding gold back, here is the ratio. You can see 2020 was the target year and we have back-to-back directional changes in 2021-2022 and then the big target is 2024 with the peak of this wave in the ECM. So we are getting ready. As I have said all along, gold will breakout ONLY when the “general” public begins to see that the government is incompetent of saving the day. That is starting to take place already. I really think the virus issue will fizzle out as it peaks in April/May and with highlight it will be like the weapons of mass destruction.
When the people see this has been tremendous economic damage for something that is not even as deadly as the flu, this can do some serious damage to public confidence. There is a panic into the dollar right now and they are selling European debt. Everything is falling into place as we have been forecasting for years now.
Buygold–WPM is a great company–but I think for a long term hold and a perpetual “call” on silver
with no expiration ya can’t beat CDE–it was $15 in 2016 and $8.50 not too long ago–the 12 month low is 2.50–hit this a.m.—and 12 month high is 8.50—last trade was $3….in 2015 if was $1,56….
I just bought 20,000 shares of CDEV–a perpetual cll on oil– for my wifes account at .31 cents–if it goes out of busines–then the max risk is 6400…both are set it and forget it trades
Maddog @ 9:50 on March 19, 2020
Malaria prone Countries not getting Corona virii ? is it because of Temperature ? or is it because Malaria medicines prevent it… like Quinine ! I suspect its Temperature because high temp and Sunshine kills the virus .
Ill still take the Tonic water with GIN just in case !
PM shares following the SM today?
Seem to be doing a little better. yesterday was pretty dog gone ugly.
R640 – thanks for pointing out WPM. Saw the same thing with KGC. I’m going to pick up some WPM.
Wonder if the decline in the SM is coming to a temporary end?
PM dealers
Since no metal is available from dealers, they are either out or just not selling at low prices. If they are out, the quickest way to restock would be to take delivery in the futures market. At that point, the truth comes out.
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