Loading ...That cop was putting all his weight on his neck cutting circulation to the carotid artery and oxygen to his brain until he went unconscious and wasn’t “ responsive “ even then continues to keep his weight on his neck. He may have died “with” health conditions but wasn’t the cause.
Claustrophobia is a real thing that can cause real physical symptoms by itself and aggravated by the assault, hands behind back and knees on his neck both would cause trouble breathing. I have no doubt he was having trouble breathing or not getting oxygen to that side of his head.
Because he sat down didn’t warrant assaulting him. What do cops do in protests when people sit down. They pick them up carry them off to a paddy wagon. It happens all the time.
The guy claiming he had claustrophobia, couldn’t breath should of just 51/50 es him.
Even cops can have it. I have a friend who was a cop for 10 years then changed to nursing. We went on R and R together to a few places. She wouldn’t get in a elevator due to claustrophobia when I’m a hotel out of the country because she didn’t trust their elevators. When we were about 10 stories up in Vegas she did lol but didn’t like it. It can make them physically sick.
Mr Copper
Derek Chauvin In Custody, Charged With Murder In George Floyd’s Death
May 29, 2020 at 6:00 pm the whole story link:
Or the main parts of the story:
Officers Thomas Lane and J Alexander Kueng arrived with their body cameras activate and recording.
The officers learned from store workers that the man, later identified as Floyd, was parked in a car around the corner.
Body camera footage shows the officers approaching the car with Lane on the driver’s side and Kueng on the passenger side. Three people were in the car: Floyd, another man and another woman.
As Lane began speaking with Floyd, he pulled out his gun, pointed it at Floyd and ordered him to show his hands. Floyd then put his hands on the steering wheel and Lane holstered his firearm.
Lane then ordered Floyd out of the car and handcuffed him, but Floyd “actively resisted being handcuffed,” the complaint states. Once handcuffed, however, police said Floyd did not resist and walked with Lane to the sidewalk. Floyd then sat on the ground at Lane’s direction.
The complaint says Lane spoke with Floyd for under two minutes, asking Floyd for his identification and name. He also asked Floyd if he was “on anything” and told Floyd he was going to be arrested for passing counterfeit currency.
Then, Lane and Keung stood Floyd up and attempted to take him to their squad car. Floyd then “stiffened up, fell to the ground and told the officers he was claustrophobic,” the complaint states.
That’s when Officers Chauvin and Tou Thao arrived on the scene in a separate squad car.
After making several attempts to get Floyd in the backseat from the driver’s side, the complaint says Floyd wouldn’t get in and would struggle with the officers by intentionally falling down.
The complaint says that Floyd began saying and repeating he could not breathe while standing outside the car. Chauvin then went to the passenger side and tried to get Floyd in from that side, with Lane and Keung assisting.
Chauvin then pulled Floyd out of the passenger side of the car at 8:19 p.m. and Floyd went to the ground face down while still handcuffed.
While Keung and Lane held Floyd’s back and legs, Chauvin “placed his left knee in the area of Mr. Floyd’s head and neck.” Floyd could be heard repeatedly saying “I can’t breathe”, as well as “mama” and “please.” The officers, however, stayed in their positions.
The officers told Floyd, “You are talking fine”, as he continued to struggle. At one point, Lane asked “should we roll him on his side?” To which Chauvin responded, “No, staying put where we got him,” the complaint states.
Lane then said he was “worried about excited delirium or whatever” to which Chauvin responded, “That’s why we have him on his stomach.” They continued holding their positions.
An autopsy report is pending, but the Hennepin County Medical Examiner did release these findings: There were no physical findings that support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxia or strangulation, and that Floyd had underlying health problems, including coronary artery disease and hypertensive heart disease.
According to the medical examiner, “the combined effects of Mr. Floyd being restrained by the police, his underlying health conditions and any potential intoxicants in his system likely contributed to his death,” the complaint states.
Buygold, Yes A Very Bad Situation
What was wrong with all the other people on the scene? A bunch of boobs. Should have pulled the cop dumb off. I heard that cop has had other problems.
Mr. Copper
“These big fat guys are prone to heart attacks. That’s what I heard about the recent one. He was not healthy. Like I said in my prior post, if a suspect is dangerous, like a wild animal, they need use tranquilizer dart guns. Or maybe big nets.
Maybe the cops, when they confront a subject, instead of saying…”You have the right to remain silent”? They should announce a disclaimer….
“Warning, If you resist arrest, you may end up dead, and your neighborhood on fire”
That’s an interesting statement/comment. Maybe the cop thought the same thing, that this big black guy, even though handcuffed, was still a wild animal?
Not sure there should be cops on the street with those predispositions.
What I find even more repulsive is that the other three cops did nothing while this cop had his knee on the neck of George Floyd for 9 minutes while he died a slow death.
Maybe I’ve gotten too old to distinguish right from wrong.
treefrog @ 15:41
I am in a county of about 110K next to a 400K county both of which are two of the fastest growing counties in the state. Lots of development and subdivision going in to support a large automotive joint venture that will bring 14K jobs. I lot of wheeling and dealing going on and not all above board. Vested interest seeking to capture the local government.
Re Resisting Arrest, A Brief Story
I met a city Fireman Cop, Fire police I think they are called. He was at a suspected arson scene. Several of the neighbors brought a suspect to his attention. He confronts the suspect, a very big minority guy, askes a few questions, then tells the guy…”I’m sorry, but you’re going to have to come with me”.
The BIG guy says…”I ain’t goin wich chu no place pal.” With that, the fire cop gets on his little radio and says…..”I need help here, and you better bring an ambulance too” The suspect says. ..
“Hey wait, why you need a ambulance?” “Because we probably going need it for you” the cop says. The big guy says, “Ok ah com wich cha” Cop said he was so big he needed two sets of hand cuffs.
These big fat guys are prone to heart attacks. That’s what I heard about the recent one. He was not healthy. Like I said in my prior post, if a suspect is dangerous, like a wild animal, they need use tranquilizer dart guns. Or maybe big nets.
Maybe the cops, when they confront a subject, instead of saying…”You have the right to remain silent”? They should announce a disclaimer….
“Warning, If you resist arrest, you may end up dead, and your neighborhood on fire”
Here we go NY already pushing for mandatory vaccine. They don’t even have one yet. People better object to the medical corruption they’re taking away their rights for profit.
A COVID-19 vaccination should be mandatory for all New Yorkers except those whose doctors exempt them, the Health Law Section of the New York State Bar Association (NYSBA) recommends in a report issued today.
Ipso
The cop who murdered Floyd should get a “ fair trial” and then public hanging or deliver him to the crowd and save the building and people jobs the mobs don’t care about. Thousands now out of work because of these thugs just adding to the problem.
They are to mild with the word violation of rights. This was a assault, torture and murder. He enjoyed seeing him suffer. The little man in big cost syndrome. He acted like he was squishing a bug instead of a human beings neck. He had this look on his face like he can publicly torture and murder a person right in front of you and get away with it.
They tried something like that with my ex once over a bar fight back when. He cooperated let them handcuff him he sat down in the car the cop then pulled his gun while threatening to shoot him. He kicked the gun out of his hand and knocked the cop out.
Silver rider
It’s funny how the vaccine cabal got exempted in the stark law as well as redirecting people to vaccines which they can profit on. Now want to mandate it.
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Wallbridge made a nice jump today on no news I’ve seen.
Have a great weekend everyone!
silver rider
i have been involved in local politics in a small county (14k pop.), and i don’t think there’s much dirty dealing when it gets that small. pretty much everyone knows each other, and their families. if anybody does anything really raw, somebody’s sure to tell their mother.
macroman3 Buygold
Yes I’m from a long way back, early 2000. I haven’t posted hardly any since entering local politics but I check in from time to time. Got my clock cleaned in the 2008 debacle by holding the miners. Up for re-election to third term in November. It is going to be ruff. They are coming after me. Got elected as a state wide Trump delegate to the convention in Charlotte. Looking forward to that. I’m making some headway in changing the local scene. Local politics is just as corrupt as at the state and federal level. Just smaller in magnitude. I would love to smash the government-rigged medical industrial complex into a million pieces. Eliminate certificates of need, eliminate the stark laws, encourage niche clinics, enable price discovery, in short, institute a heavy dose of unfettered competition and free market principles to the medical complex.
@Buygold re Resisting Arrest
I think, they need to do a study, and find out why certain types of people do not cooperate with the police. Do they have a subconscious desire to lose? You can’t win arguing with a cop. Do they need to teach that in high school?
Or. Is the person acting crazy because of drugs, or mentally disturbed, and looking dangerous? And scaring the cops? Why not treat it like a dangerous animal situation, bear, wildcat? Take out the tranquilizer gun.
This is simple crap. No talk like this on TV. For some strange reason. Lazy minded media? Gov’t?
Buygold
Yep some cops are bad apples. Certainly the fellow who kneeled on George’s neck is no good. The other cops should have done something … if they realized what was going on. I don’t know enough to say what their punishment should be.
Last hour – here they come
at least in the first couple of minutes they came at us pretty hard.
Now maybe we know why the large caps have been weak all day.
Ipso
Not sure what that cop was thinking sitting on that HANDCUFFED guys neck for 9 minutes. Generally I support the police but I’ve run into a couple bad ones.
As a percentage, they are like the rest of the population – good and bad apples. That cop and the other cops that were there and did nothing, need to go to prison.
Thanks Maddog… Juniors, particularly Jr. silvers looking good
Large cap golds, not so much. Boot on the neck of some of my faves – NEM, GOLD, WPM, KGC
Not sure what to make of that other than scum action – rarely let us have a full win.
HUI needs to retake the highs pretty quick.
Buygold
Point taken….I will try not to get riled …
Cheers
$18?
is silver headed for eighteen bucks today???